Hi Bill, Did Zen develop before it was linked to Buddhism?
Beverley. ________________________________ From: Bill! <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011 10:09:49 Subject: Re: [Zen] Newbie - hello & question Beverley, Also, zen is not a dependent sub-set of Buddhism. Zen Buddhism is just a Buddhist expression of zen. In fact most Buddhists don't even recognize zen as a legitimate sect of Buddhism. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Beverley Huish <beverley.huish@...> wrote: > > Thank you, JM, :-) > > One of the things that appeals to me about Buddhism is that it > is non-judgemental. > > I'm also glad to have you say that knowledge isn't Buddhism's emphasis - > there > seems to be an awful lot of it about different types of Buddhism. (I already > decided that I'm not going to make any effort to pick up what I don't need to > know, or when I don't feel I can take anything else new on - unfortunately, > being a newbie Buddhist, I don't know what I really need to know to be a > Buddhist. I'm just focussing on mindfulness at the moment and hoping / >trusting > > that other information will come to me as I'm ready to receive it.) > > :-) > > Beverley. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, 16 May, 2011 17:47:27 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Newbie - hello & question > > > Hello Beverly, > > Having your non-comparing mindset is the essence of Chan. Comparing is > always > relative and reincarnates itself into endless hell. > > Also for your information... > > Long Shu Bodhisatva (龍樹） brought Chan to Tibet way back then. In China, Chan >is > > nick named The Grand "Secret Lineage"/Vajrayana/Mizong (大密宗）, while Tibetan > practice is just Secret Lineage（密宗）. > > Some knowledge for your non-Buddhist friend, though knowledge is never our > emphasis. > > FYI, > JM > > > Learn to de-stress, energize and awaken http://www.chan-meditation.com Learn > to > > live with Health, Happiness and Harmony http://www.chanliving.org Learn to >reach > > enlightenment http://www.heartchan.org To save the world > http://www.universal-oneness.org > > On 5/16/2011 8:38 AM, Beverley Huish wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I'm a newbie in this group, and to Buddhism. I sincerely don't want to > >upset > >anyone or start an argument. I want to join in this discussion, and this > >has > >cropped up so I'm asking the question. > > > >I told a friend today that I feel Buddhism is for me, and I'm looking into >Zen. > > >My friend replied that Tibetan Buddhism is a more spiritual type of Buddhism > >because they believe in God. Having looked into various types of > >Buddhism, he believes that the Buddha communicated higher information, >including > > >the existence of God, to Tibetan Buddhists because they were more > >spiritually > >evolved at that point - Tibetan Buddhists claim this is the case and my > >friend > > >agrees with them, he says. My response was to say that different things >appeal > > >to different people and I don't think it's a matter of one being more > >'spiritual' or more 'true' than another. (I really don't care what > >might considered 'higher' or more 'spiritual' - at the moment that is >irrelevant > > >to me. However, it did seem a kind of un-Buddhist thing to claim that > >oneself > > >is better than another person? My friend is not a Buddhist.) > > > >What do other people think? > > > >Thank you. :-) > > > >Beverley. >
