....*laughter*....Ahhh, this is exactly what I've been speaking of. I usually 
snip posts, but this demonstrates very well the huge gulf or divide between 
practise and living on one hand, and a little too much thinking on the other 
without the experience. Nevertheless, one can still learn about life from such 
discourses
 
Buddha be praised
Mel
 
--- On Fri, 20/5/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Bill! <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Re: Three Western Myths About Mindfulness
To: [email protected]
Received: Friday, 20 May, 2011, 11:00 PM


  



ED,

'51 Mental Factors'? Give me a break! This is the kind of overly-indulgent 
dogma that send shivers up my spine.

Zen is VERY VERY SIMPLE and doesn't have 51 of anything!

All you've go to do is sit (zazen)! 

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote:
> >
> > Daniel: What do you mean by saying that mindfulness is a mental
> factor? Mayka
> 
> 
> 
> Mayka, Below is one list of mental factors. --ED
> 
> 
> 
> http://viewonbuddhism.org/mind.html#3
> <http://viewonbuddhism.org/mind.html#3>
> 51 MENTAL FACTORS
> In the Abhidharmakosha of Vasubandu, 51 types of mind states or mental
> factors are distinguished.
> 
> They are mainly categorised by the way they are related to the main
> delusions of attachment, anger and ignorance, (see below) and their
> relevance to mind training.
> 
> Note that the English terms used often have different connotations than
> the actual definitions in Buddhism.
> 
> Although below list may appear a dull list of definitions, a careful
> study of it can explain much of the Buddhist attitude towards the mind.
> 
> The list does not have the intention to be complete in describing all
> possible mental states, but describes merely the most important ones in
> relation to spiritual practice.
> 
> 
> THE 5 OMNIPRESENT (EVER-RECURRING) MENTAL FACTORS
> 1. Feeling (the first aggregate)
> 2. Recognition / discrimination / distinguishing awareness (the second
> aggregate)
> 3. Intention / mental impulse - I will ...
> 4. Concentration / attention / mental application - focused grasping of
> an object of awareness
> 5. Contact - the connection of an object with the mind, this may be
> pleasurable, painful or neutral as experienced by the aggregate of
> Feeling.
> THE 5 DETERMINATIVE MENTAL FACTORS
> 6. Resolution / aspiration - directing effort to fulfil desired
> intention, basis for diligence and enthusiasm.
> 7. Interest / appreciation - holding on to a particular thing, not
> allowing distraction
> 8. Mindfulness / Recollection - repeatedly bringing objects back to
> mind, not forgetting
> 9. Concentration / Samadhi - one-pointed focus on an object, basis for
> increasing intelligence
> 10. Intelligence / Wisdom - "common-sense intelligence", fine
> discrimination, examines characteristics of objects, stops doubt,
> maintains root of all wholesome qualities.
> THE 4 VARIABLE (POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE) MENTAL FACTORS
> 11. Sleep - makes mind unclear, sense consciousness turns inwards
> 12. Regret - makes mind unhappy when regarding a previously done action
> as bad, prevents the mind from being at ease.
> 13. General examination / coarse discernment - depending on intelligence
> or intention, searches for rough idea about the object.
> 14. Precise analysis / subtle discernment - depending on intelligence or
> intention, examines the object in detail.
> THE 11 VIRTUOUS MENTAL FACTORS
> (Note that 18 and 19 are not necessary always virtuous. The first 3 are
> also known as roots of virtue.)
> 
> 15. Faith / confidence / respectful belief - gives us positive attitude
> to virtue and objects that are worthy of respect. Three types are
> distinguished, with the last one being the preferred type:
> a. uncritical faith: motivation is for no apparent reason
> b. longing faith: motivation is by an emotionally unstable mind
> c. conviction: motivated by sound reasons
> 16. Sense of Propriety / self-respect - usually the personal conscience
> to stop negative actions and perform positive actions
> 17. Considerateness / decency - avoids evil towards others, basis for
> unspoiled moral discipline.
> 18. Suppleness / thorough training / flexibility - enables the mind to
> engage in positive acts as wished, interrupting mental or physical
> rigidity.
> 19. Equanimity <http://viewonbuddhism.org/immeasurables.html> /
> clear-minded tranquility - peaceful mind, not being overpowered by
> delusions, no mental dullness or agitation
> 20. Conscientiousness / carefulness - causes avoiding negative acts &
> doing good; mind with detachment, non-hatred, non-ignorance and
> enthusiasm
> 21. Renunciation / detachment - no attachment to cyclic existence and
> objects
> 22. Non hatred / imperturbability - no animosity to others or
> conditions; rejoicing
> 23. Non-bewilderment / non ignorance / open-mindedness - usually
> understanding the meaning of things through clear discrimination, never
> unwilling to learn
> 24. Non violence / complete harmlessness - compassion without any
> hatred, pacifist
> 25. Enthusiasm / diligence - doing positive acts (specifically mental
> development and meditation) with delight
> 
> 
> THE 26 NON-VIRTUOUS MENTAL FACTORS
> THE 6 ROOT DELUSIONS (Delusion is defined as any secondary mental factor
> that, when developed, brings about suffering and uneasiness to self or
> others.)
> 
> 26. Ignorance - not knowing karma, meaning and practice of 3 Jewels,
> includes closed-mindedness, lack of wisdom
> <http://viewonbuddhism.org/wisdom_emptiness.html> of emptiness.
> 27. Attachment <http://viewonbuddhism.org/attachment.html> / desire -
> definition: not wanting to be separated from someone or something.
> Grasping at aggregates in cyclic existence causes rebirth & suffering of
> existence
> 28. Anger <http://viewonbuddhism.org/anger.html> - definition: wanting
> to be separated from someone or something, can lead to relentless desire
> to hurt others; causes unhappiness
> 29. Pride
> <http://viewonbuddhism.org/delusions_pride_ignorance_doubt_loneliness.ht\
> ml> - inflated superiority, supported by one's worldly views, which
> include disrespect of others
> 30. Doubt
> <http://viewonbuddhism.org/delusions_pride_ignorance_doubt_loneliness.ht\
> ml> / deluded indecisive wavering - being in two minds about reality;
> usually leads to negative actions
> 31. Wrong views / speculative delusions - based on emotional
> afflictions. Distinguished in 5 types: belief in the self as permanent
> or non-existent (as opposite to the view of emptiness); denying karma,
> not understanding the value of the 3 Jewels; closed-mindedness (my view
> -which is wrong- is best); wrong conduct (not towards liberation)
> THE 20 SECONDARY NON-VIRTUOUS MENTAL FACTORS
> Derived from anger:
> 32. Wrath / hatred - by increased anger, malicious state wishing to
> cause immediate harm to others
> 33. Vengeance / malice / resentment - not forgetting harm done by a
> person, and seeking to return harm done to oneself
> 34. Rage / spite / outrage - intention to utter harsh speech in reply to
> unpleasant words, when wrath and malice become unbearable
> 35. Cruelty / vindictiveness / mercilessness - being devoid of
> compassion or kindness, seeking harm to others.
> 
> Derived from anger and attachment:
> 36. Envy / jealousy - internal anger caused by attachment; unbearable to
> bear good things others have
> 
> Derived from attachment:
> 37. Greed / avarice / miserliness - intense clinging to possessions and
> their increase
> 38. Vanity / self-satisfaction - seeing one's good fortune giving one a
> false sense of confidence; being intoxicated with oneself
> 39. Excitement / wildness / mental agitation - distraction towards
> desire objects, not allowing the mind to rest on something wholesome;
> obstructs single pointed concentration.
> 
> Derived from ignorance:
> 40. Concealment - hiding one's negative qualities when others with good
> intention refer to them this causes regret
> 41. Dullness / muddle-headedness - caused by fogginess which makes mind
> dark/heavy - like when going to sleep, coarse dullness is when the
> object is unclear, subtle dullness is when the object has no intense
> clarity
> 42. Faithlessness - no belief of that which is worthy of respect; it can
> be the idea that virtue is unnecessary, or a mistaken view of virtue; it
> forms the basis for laziness (43)
> 43. Laziness
> <http://viewonbuddhism.org/delusions_pride_ignorance_doubt_loneliness.ht\
> ml> - being attached to temporary pleasure, not wanting to do virtue or
> only little; opposite to diligence [25])
> 44. Forgetfulness - causes to not clearly remember virtuous acts,
> inducing distraction to disturbing objects - not "just forgetting", but
> negative tendency
> 45. Inattentiveness / lack of conscience - "distracted wisdom" after
> rough or no analysis, not fully aware of one's conduct, careless
> indifference and moral failings; intentional seeking mental distraction
> like daydreaming
> 
> Derived from attachment and ignorance:
> 46. Hypocrisy / pretension - pretend non-existent qualities of oneself
> 47. Dishonesty / smugness - hiding one's faults, giving no clear
> answers, no regret, snobbery & conceit, self-importance and finding
> faults with others
> 
> Derived from attachment, anger and ignorance
> 48. Shamelessness - consciously not avoiding evil, it supports all root
> and secondary delusions
> 49. Inconsiderateness - not avoiding evil, being inconsiderate of
> other's practice, ingratitude
> 50. Unconscientiousness / carelessness- 3 delusions plus laziness;
> wanting to act unrestrained
> 51. Distraction / mental wandering - inability to focus on any virtuous
> object
>






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