ED,

Okay - fair enough.  The reason I asked is that you just did as you do so 
often:  present something without putting it in any kind of context.  I'd 
suggest you at least preface it with something like 'What do you thing of 
this?'; and better yet let us know your feelings on it also.

As far as I am concerned male/female are indeed roles - both biologically 
imposed and socially imposed roles.  Buddha Nature is non-dualistic so by 
definition is neither male/female, and all-inclusive.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> To solicit your view as a Zenist, should you choose to share it, of men
> (or women) in our culture engaged in an endeavor to reset the roles for
> men (or women.)
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> ED,
> 
> Why did you post this here? ...Bill!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected]
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/post?postID=rz7_hoortlmhdn8soEe\
> d-Fk9Yu1zYQDPeaosUlbI_5GGtz7q2SSt_vbD9Q0ZfiaHGTKgOCa-PyZBblgcHzTAg-4QITA\
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