I didn't mean I don't think that phrase appears in the Buddhist literature - I meant I don't think it was uttered on the night of his awakening; and I wouldn't be shocked if it weren't added in a context a group of people worrying "we can't just ignore good, I mean useful, behavior all together."
The fox thing I mean is that you are verging on answering the question, "Is a Buddha subject to the law of causation?" in the negative. (I think that because your writing conjures up the idea of people working towards some state, and then in that state or as a result of that state being liberated/freed from something, which thing many would like to be karmic burdens. We are already free - right now, right here, us as is; but cause and effect still are in this unity of experience that is life). Thanks, --Chris [email protected] +1-301-270-6524 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ah, Chris. Thank you for the warning. I dare not to risk being a fox. > Because of that, therefore... > > The phrase of "karmic hindrance" or (業障) in Chinese is directly from the > Buddha's teaching. Please google that to verify. It means nothing but the > "hindrances of our body, mind and spirit." Some of which are inherited > whether internal or external. Some of which are created by ourselves. > > Yet, all of which could be detected and be processed by anyone of us, > corresponding to our levels of purification. This is my witness. These > witnesses in the "miao" domain, or "indescribable" domain could only be > experienced and not taught. > > As always, my Teacher say, "words are for your convenience." > jm > > On 12/5/2011 8:56 AM, ChrisAustinLane wrote: > > > Gotta tell ya, the karmic hindrances clause really reads like it was added > by the committee for doctrinal preservation and student motivation. > > Every thing, just as it is, is fine. > > Seems you are also in danger of rebirth as a fox. > > Thanks, > Chris Austin-Lane > Sent from a cell phone > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:48, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Indeed Chris, Buddha agrees with you, "every sentient being could be > enlightened, once they rid of their karmic hindrances." JM > > On 12/5/2011 7:01 AM, ChrisAustinLane wrote: > > > Hit send too soon. > > ---- > As a time of sitting with absolutely still mind but a restless body. > > I find the hybrid word body/mind to be useful. You can't experience a > re-union of body and mind - only know the union. > > I just don't want readers to think that zen will change them so they > have a unified body and mind - that is already there. > > Thanks, > Chris Austin-Lane > Sent from a cell phone > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:57, ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> wrote: > > Let me re-phrase - in all places and times, our body mind and spirit > are one. > > The contents of whatever thoughts we have may or may not reflect that > unity, but they are just thoughts anyways. > > For example, one may notice that a particular time of sitting will seem > like you mind was totally absent,being totally distracted. You might think > one might as well not sat at all. But since it is not your body sitting, > not your mind sitting, you notice that in fact it has tweaked your > perspective just as much as > > Thanks, > Chris Austin-Lane > Sent from a cell phone > > On Dec 4, 2011, at 17:43, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > Not sure that I fully understand your question. Perhaps I should detail a > little more about "in the zone". > > It is a state without thinking and everything we do is spontaneous, > natural and effortless, while often times in our everyday life, our body, > mind and spirit operating in a loosely connected way. While in the zone, > they are one without separation or distinction. > > This is not a mental state, it is a state of being integrating body, mind > and spirit. Or in Buddhist terms, surpassing the Realms of Desire, Form > and Formlessness. Or in other words, surpassing the hindrance of physical, > mental and spiritual karma. > > Thank you for the opportunity to share. > JM > > > > On 12/4/2011 3:35 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In other words, in such a state, our body, mind and spirit are one. In >> modern language, we are "in the zone". We are in a state of most natural, >> effortless and automatic state of being. > > > > Are you saying there is some state when body mind and spirit are not > one? Or are you talking about something other than reality, but the > contents of our mental beliefs, which do not always hold dualistic beliefs. > > > Thanks, > > --Chris > [email protected] > +1-301-270-6524 > > > > >
