Mike, Sorry for ruining your appetite!
Maybe Merle's running naked through the daffodils site will restore it! :-) Edgar On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:14 AM, mike brown wrote: > > Edgar, > > Thanks. You do know it's dinner time here in the UK, right? > > Mike > > From: Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 13:09 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > Mike, > > You mean you haven't seen Bill's naked zazen photos? > :-) > > Edgar > > > > On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:59 AM, mike brown wrote: > >> >> >> Naked Yoga Forum? If that's run by you and Edgar, then I hope it's strictly >> conducted in the written medium only. God forbid. >> >> Mike >> >> >> From: Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org> >> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:53 >> Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" >> >> >> I agree with Edgar! >> >> ...and that's how we pump-up the post count so we can increase our >> commission checks and some day retire to become moderators of the Yahoo! >> Naked Yoga Forum. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >> > >> > Bill!, Mike and ED, >> > >> > Yes, I'll continually fill your bowls with the gruel of realization while >> > Bill! continually washes it right out of your bowls! again >> > :-) >> > >> > EDgar >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Bill! wrote: >> > >> > > Mike and ED, >> > > >> > > Or how about...Just continue to exchange posts with Edgar. He's got what >> > > seems to be an unlimited supply of rice gruel. He'll keep your bowl >> > > filled to the brim! >> > > >> > > ...Bill! >> > > >> > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Mike, Point taken, but this is the Zen Forum, not the Theravada Forum >> > > > or the Here-Have-Some-More-Rice-Gruel Forum. >> > > > >> > > > ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit. >> > > > >> > > > ...Bill! >> > > > >> > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Bill!, >> > > > > >> > > > > A great instruction, and is certainly direct, but Joshu's >> > > > > instructions were given to a monk who had probably been practicing >> > > > > meditation for a long time and was already 'ripe' for awakening to >> > > > > happen. Imagine how useful that instruction would be to a neophyte >> > > > > coming off the street asking about the search for truth or something >> > > > > similar. Joshu's instruction is just that - an instruction. That's >> > > > > why i believe Buddha's skilful means (upaya) is so useful as a >> > > > > teaching method. On the one side we can have the direct pointing to >> > > > > the Dharma (Zen) and on the other we can have Therevada Buddhism >> > > > > with it's more step by step instructions, such as following the >> > > > > Noble eightfold Path. >> > > > > >> > > > > The Buddha was very wise to understand that there are many different >> > > > > kinds of people/cultures/personalities etc. out there and no one >> > > > > method will work for all. I think it should be clear now that "wash >> > > > > you bowls" just isn't going to work for someone like ED. If you >> > > > > agree, what else could you say that might help him? >> > > > > >> > > > > Mike >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ________________________________ >> > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> >> > > > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com >> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 9:48 >> > > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Â >> > > > > ED, >> > > > > >> > > > > Mind if Joshu and I jump in? >> > > > > >> > > > > "WASH YOUR BOWLS!" That's how...Bill! (and Joshu) >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Edgar, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > And how is this magic trick accomplished? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > --ED >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ED, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature! >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Edgar >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Edgar, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice >> > > > > > > > diligently at all times with no objective in mind? >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --ED >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Joe and Merle, >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without >> > > > > > > > > which >> > > > > > you >> > > > > > > > imagine you are incomplete.... >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an >> > > > > > > > > essential >> > > > > > aspect >> > > > > > > > of realization... >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Wham! >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Edgar >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > >
