Merle,

Yes, absolutely. But don't take my word for it - it's available to anyone 
regardless of race, sex, age or belief system etc. People were doing it long 
before the Buddha, but he used the state to a) calm the mind b) to really 
inquire deeply into bodily sensation and its effect on the mind. From that 
enquiry he found that all phenonema arise and pass, attaching or averting leads 
to suffering and c) there is no solid 'self' for phenomena to happen to.


The first of these techniques (to just calm the mind) is called samattha in 
Pali and means tranquillity. The second, which involves insight, is called 
vipassana in Pali and is essential for wisdom. In samattha meditation there 
isn't really any insight wisdom that leads to liberation from suffering BUT the 
factors involved in these jhanic states is *very* pleasurable, both physically 
and mentally. I've tried ecstasy (the drug) and the jhanas leave it in the 
dark. Like drugs tho, entering into the jhanas can be very addictive and so 
caution is advised.

Mike



________________________________
 From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012, 3:13
Subject: Re: [Zen] hear and mind...and dare i say soul
 

  


 thank you mike... bliss eh?...merle


  
Sure, I understand where you're coming from, but the practice of the jhanas is 
actually quite a technical practice, usually using the breath as an object of 
meditation. When concentration is focused and deep enough, it is possible to go 
into a one-pointed state of concentration where thoughts cease and there is a 
feeling of bliss that pervades the body-mind (1st jhana). Depending on how 
well/often the practioner has been practicing, there are another 7 jhanas that 
can be experienced. I know that probably sounds wacky to someone who hasn't 
experienced, or studied them, but it is what the Buddha (re)discovered and is 
the Right Concentration part of the Noble Eightfold Path.

I think Anthony and JM would probably agree that talking about the heart and 
mind can be confusing in the language of Buddhism. It
 is now more commonly accepted
 that mind means the cognitive, thinking and imaginative part of experience; 
heart (alone) is the emotional/feeling part and heart-mind is the total 
experience of the personality. Of course there is an overlap of sorts, but we 
can see that thinking about our dead grandmother has a different effect than 
doing mental arithmetic.  


Hope that helps.

Mike


________________________________
 From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012, 1:43
Subject: [Zen] hear and mind...and dare i say soul
 

  


the mind huh?..if the heart is broken how do we calm the mind and forget the 
heart ?
 all is interconnected.. heart / mind. soul
merle
  
Merle,

The purpose of the jhanas is to calm the mind, for its own sake, or to make it 
more conducive to insight meditation (vipassana). 
Not really anything to do with the heart, at least not directly.

Mike


________________________________
 From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012, 1:30
Subject: Fw: [Zen] Jhana: heart..correction
 

  


 
 correction...sorry... were we not discussing the heart and it's  
"purpose"...merle
  


 note the word..... heart.... we we not discussing heart and it's 
purpose?...merle


  
Merle,

What are you telling us by re-posting this quote?



________________________________
 From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2012, 23:39
Subject: Re: [Zen] Jhana: heart
 

  
, "we would reach the state of Jhana, where our heart would be joyful, content 
and loving, as well as in most of our daily lives, we would be connected to the 
wisdom of each moment naturally, effortlessly, automatically without thinking."

















 

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