Someone writes "When I meditate in this way, I start to have such and such a thought (about how reality is just an incompressable informational representation in a quantum field in which the probability of 'sun rising tomorrow' is approximately 1.0') and I experience myself as a wave of dancing information with no expressable 1st order predicates to slice me apart from the wave function of the universe."
Bill! writes: "That is an illusion, just this! is real." Edgar writes, "Why do you insist on disbelieving that the sun will rise tomorrow? Do you also run out into traffic?" Thanks, --Chris ch...@austin-lane.net +1-301-270-6524 On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > > > Chris, > > Don't understand what you mean here. Can you give an example or two? > > Edgar > > > > On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > > > Not the comments themselves but you and Bill! have a repeating pattern > where he makes a statement in the absolute mode and you, despite > an.intelligent and.subtle reading ability, take it as speach in the > relative mode - that stubbornness to misread Bills! writings winds him up a > bit. but it helps us with our ability to write as much as we've gotten on > paper the.last month. > On Sep 26, 2012 3:57 AM, "Edgar Owen" <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > >> >> >> Bill, >> >> "Many of my remarks creep you out"? >> >> That's an unexpectedly strange statement! >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Bill! wrote: >> >> >> >> I agree with much of what tggtggtggtgg (his friends just call him 'tgg' >> and his very close friends just 't') wrote below. >> >> I live in Thailand and am 12-hours apart from some of the US. Usually >> when I first log onto the Zen Forum in my morning there are many posts that >> have accumulated over my night. I go through them one at a time and post >> remarks to some. I know some of these posts have already been responded to >> by others and I just haven't seen them yet, but I go through them >> sequentially anyway. >> >> And yes many of Edgar's remarks creep me out. >> >> I don't know any solution to this - if indeed there needs to be a >> solution. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: >> > >> > It seems there is a structural stability of writers of sufficient >> > similarity to criticize each other, spread across multiple time zones, >> not >> > arranged into simple pairs but in triads of mutually "judging/helping" >> so >> > that the group is almost optimally arranged for the production of words. >> > >> > Merle posts a link that inspires a comment from Anthony which Bill! >> > contrasts to Just This! which Edgar misreads as being applicable to the >> > relative world which creeps Bill! out, so he makes some careful but long >> > reply which Merle finds off putting and criticises - giving KG a chance >> to >> > illustrate not arising in a comment that prompts Joe to recommend >> serious >> > practise with a Sangha and a glowy gold awakening experience, which is >> > perfectly explained by some Theravada teaching as mike explains. >> > >> > The time delay and multiple participants keep the most common mental >> > filters 'too frequently posting' and 'no long arguments without a deep >> > breath' from kicking in too much. Even when one of us ceases, another >> > reactor stands ready to continue. >> > >> > We get to witness ourselves all convinced we have something to share >> with >> > others that lack that particular perspective and leaving the appearance >> of >> > having judged the other as being less, repeating across the sides of, >> not >> > pairs of higher and lower, but of pentagons of higher and lower of >> varying >> > standards; like an Escher there is no global up or down, but a very fast >> > flow of water down the channel. a is better than.b is better than c is >> > better than d is better than e is.better than a! >> > >> > it is a very true teaching of the Dharma, but there is a lot of reading. >> > On Sep 24, 2012 7:10 PM, "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: >> > >> > > Group, howdy, >> > > >> > > Even with a week left in the month, the month of September this year >> has >> > > been a "record-" year for the group in the sense that there are now, >> today, >> > > more posts in one month (three weeks!) than at any other full-monthly >> span >> > > in this Group's 12-year history. >> > > >> > > Just noting this, as somebody who's come back here after ten years. >> > > >> > > Now, divide by TEN and increase the quality by TEN, and I'll stay. ;-) >> > > >> > > Don't tell me it's all up to me. I am not a Solipsist. Are you? >> > > >> > > --Joe / Arizona >> > > >> > > PS Increase quality by THREE is OK, if you must bargain. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or >> are >> > > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
