no bill...no no no..there are some who walk amongst us who can see the
light!..you know that!...and there are many amongst us who care about the
planet and want to fix the problems...we are not all greedy, lazy stupid and
selfish... some of us are selfless, caring, and creative..think positive billll
and put a plan in yourself to make a better world...after all why are you here
you you hedonistic tiger..just for self gratification? what are you doing to
make for a better earth environment..what repairs have you made personally?..do
not just sweep all under the carpet and say "oh too hard why bother".... i'll
just sit in the sun cross-legged and meditate"....though saying that there is a
good side to this IF we all the whole earth's population...the billions of us
sat daily and meditated zen style..would we not be moving towards a better
world?..so forward ho billll... we can bring about change for the better..
life is learning listening and evolving
merle
Merle,
...and this is my point.
If we're the stupid, lazy, greedy species that 'created this mess' in the first
place, just why do we think that NOW we have become so smart, enthusiastic and
sharing that we can now 'fix it'?
Don't you think we might just still be the stupid, lazy, greedy species that
will now try to 'fix' something in a stupid, lazy, greedy way? Maybe even
making things worse?
...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
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>
>
> Â we create the mess now we must fix it..merle
> Â
> Chris,
>
> Seems to me we (humans) are just another one of the numerous fauna and flora
> living here, but think we are smart enough to know what's best for the entire
> planet.
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote:
> >
> > Seems to me we (humans) are now the designated park managers for the
> > planet. hopefully our skill and motivation will improve in the next few
> > hundred years at this task liFe has given us
> > On Oct 16, 2012 11:09 PM, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I never said that I thought everything should just stay as it is. It
> > > won't. That's all part of impermanence. And...I believe the urge of
> > > Merle
> > > and you and anyone else to 'make things better' is natural too.
> > >
> > > What I bristle at is people trying to use labels such as 'unnatural' or
> > > 'interfering with nature' as a reason to justify their environmental
> > > (especially if conservationist) agenda.
> > >
> > > I look at beaches and see that I like sparsely populated beaches better
> > > than those littered with condos, but I don't label the condos as
> > > 'unnatural' nor their developers as 'interfering with nature'.
> > >
> > > I just say I like the uncluttered beaches better. They are more pleasing
> > > to me. Why should I have to say more or try to justify that further?
> > >
> > > ...Bill!
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill!,
> > > >
> > > > I know that you are. And I don't disagree.
> > > >
> > > > But don't give yourself airs. You're not arguing at all, Bill.
> > > >
> > > > You just seem to passively accept them. I'm not sure that that is
> > > natural. It seems self-defeating, not Nature's way.
> > > >
> > > > We can naturally step in, step up, and do a hell of a lot better for
> > > Nature (ourselves). It's only natural that we should want to do so. And
> > > we will. Even if you benefit.
> > > >
> > > > --Joe
> > > >
> > > > > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike and Joe and maybe even Merle,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not arguing that all these things are not happening. I'm only
> > > arguing that all these things are natural activities.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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