RAF,

I disagree with your "simply" statement.  I find it simplistic.

In a DEMOCRATIC society -- which India is -- a social contract among the people 
establishes a constitution and a government.  The imposition of taxes and even 
taking of lands as "eminent domain" for social purposes is a function of 
Legislature.  Such taking did not happen in the case of the lands that were 
given for occupation by the Untouchables, which you feel impressed by.  I am 
also impressed by the donors' generosity (or motivation by guilt; or, worse, 
income- or real-estate-tax-avoidance incentive).

But, now, I know that people directly connected with tax payments and takings 
often feel ripped-off, and say they do, but they forget in that instance about 
the social contract.  And, I claim so do you when you write...

> ...TAKEN by the government, which is simply THEFT

It's a small point, which I extract from your appreciative comment about a 
small piece of Subhana's teisho, but I think it betrays a mis-understanding of 
the social contract on your part, or else you are letting your personal anger 
about something take center-stage.   Do you listen to a lot of pot-boiler AM 
radio in daytime in USA?  Does hatred and lack of understanding of the social 
contract pollute all the *rest* of your "politics", too?  It's an important 
point, RAF.  To consider.  Not to expound upon here, however.

You think you are an Individual, but in fact you are also a member of Society.

All this leads back to Zen practice, you know, and -- we hope -- to Awakening!

With wishes,

--Joe

-> R A Fonda <rafonda@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
> 
> I was very impressed by this:
> 
>  > By the time Vinoba had reached the conference, two thousand acres had 
> been given back to the poorest villagers. Inspired by Vinoba's work, 
> Vimala also walked across India from east to west and north to south and 
> eventually ten million acres of land was given back to the landless poor 
> without a single hand from the bureaucracy. <
> 
> Two important factors here:
> 
> The land was FREELY GIVEN, which is a true act of compassion
> 
> The land was not TAKEN by the government, which is simply THEFT
> 
> Too many people consider themselves compassionate because they are 
> willing to empower the government to steal from some to give to others 
> they consider more deserving.
> 
> I concede that some people deserve to have assets confiscated because 
> they stole from others. For instance, Jon Corzine stole some of my 
> hard-earned retirement funds, but since he is a crony and fund-raiser 
> for Obama, not one penny of his ill-gotten gains have been taken for the 
> benefit of those he victimized; he remains a billionaire and has never 
> even been charged with a crime. If I could take his money and distribute 
> it to those from whom he stole, I would do so, but that would simply be 
> justice. To feel so 'compassionate' toward the poor that I help to 
> empower the government to steal money from productive people to give to 
> others is neither justice nor compassion.




------------------------------------

Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    [email protected] 
    [email protected]

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    [email protected]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Reply via email to