Edgar,

I won't say!

In a formal practice place, though, I'd say we just follow the customs and the 
rules, and enjoy every minute of it.  We are practicing with great mature 
Bodhisattvas, as well as with beginners, all together.  We act uniformly, and 
no one opts-out, nor acts out (except in the room with the Teacher in dokusan, 
if it is appropriate).  "Harmony" is as much valued in American zendos as in 
Asian ones, I assure you, for all the important reasons.

Reminders are not obtrusive: they are what we call Practice.

And so we continue... .

--Joe

> Edgar Owen  wrote:
>
> Mike and Joe,
> 
> Correct! There is nothing wrong with a little reminder for the unenlightened 
> ones. Problem is that the reminders very often become more important than 
> what they are supposed to remind of.
> 
> Does Buddha need to be reminded he's Buddha?
> 
> Edgar




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