Yes. Japanese Satori is wholly founded on the belief that words are
nonsense to the gods. Logic, determination, will power, will do you little
good. A huge desire to 'know' is all that is required.

On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Merle Lester <[email protected]>wrote:

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>   i bit of nonsense never hurt anyone... all seriousness can lead to
> fanaticism and text book devotees... be careful..lest you fall into the
> trap..merle
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>   Merle,
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> Is it National Non-Sequitur Week in Australia, or something?
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> Mike
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> *From: *Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] the painted snake
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 1:06:17 PM
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>  mike ... lighten up... where is your sense of humour?..merle
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>   Case in point: I just typed in random letters and the spell-checker did
> the rest. See how you (we) imagine things that aren't there without agreed
> upon rules of communication? I understand that Zen masters and poets can
> turn such rules on their head to make a point, but we were still
> communicating a point within the thread (that a god is unnecessary for the
> creation and running of the universe). To talk about painting legs on
> snakes for the fun of it is a non-sequitur at best and just nonsense at
> worst.
>
> Mike
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> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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> *From: *Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] the painted snake
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 9:41:55 AM
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>   ah ha..now your experiencing the original buddha nature...well done
>  mike..." sleep tight don't let the bed bugs bite"..
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> what's that about the ship of doom i read ? and wiki leaks....
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> is ya ship come in?
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> .signing out at 7:38pm..elrem..(all zen up and on fire)
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>   Exnnhj,
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> Hertl njjik ddfoim doom wiki kklko ujji p ship.
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> Njiik
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> *From: *Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] the painted snake
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 9:31:48 AM
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>    from the original buddha nature..where else do you suppose?..what
> rules are you referring to?...
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> there you go rules  regulations and conventions and in the next breath you
> deny being a textbook fanatic... huh?..merle
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>   I hardly think employing the basic rules and conventions of
> communication makes me a "text book fanatic". Where do you come up with
> these things?!!
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> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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> *From: *Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] the painted snake
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 9:22:32 AM
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>   i see..your a text book fanatic..lordi be...merle
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>   Simply because your's is not the meaning of the phrase as it relates to
> Zen and how I originally used it.
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> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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> *From: *Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] the painted snake
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 9:12:45 AM
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>   yes mike..i know your meaning..however you refuse point blank to see
> mine.. why?..merle
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>   Merle,
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> The meaning of 'painting legs on a snake' indicates the pointlessness of
> giving something it doesn't need and can do without. It has nothing to do
> with 'having fun'. My original point still stands that the universe works
> perfectly well without giving it imaginary fairy-stories as to how it works.
>
> Mike
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> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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> *From: *Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;
> *Subject: *[Zen] the painted snake
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 8:09:34 AM
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>  i do not follow the norm.. do you mike?.... painting legs on a snake i
> do it because i can and it's fun...try it.. the snake wont bite you if
> that's what's worrying you..merle
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>   Your definition is meaningless though and certainly not in accord with
> how most people define 'God'. The universe works just fine without such a
> belief. Why paint legs on a snake?
>
> Mike
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>   rubbish...you missed the point then .....
> the forest is god..the forest and the people are one..
> .god, forest and people are all in harmony..it's called life!!!!!!!!...
> god is life...
> what the hell did you think god was?...
>  merle..not the old man with a long white beard syndrome?[image: *:))
> laughing] or some other equally absurd notion?[image: *#-o d'oh!]
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>   Watched it. Yep, no god.
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>   mike ..you have missed the boat...( the point)... watch the brazilian
> tribe doc..then tell me "there is no "god"...merle
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>   Merle,
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> Just because belief in a god gives comfort it doesn't make it true.
>
> Mike
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> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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> *From: *Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]>;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] Re: the human body
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 1:23:16 AM
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>   mike..explain yourself please..
> and KG.... not true...on a beautiful spring day one rejoices and gives
> thanks that one has eyes to see and ears to hear and a tongue to
> speak..merle
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>  And comfort is only sought when dis-eased.
>
> KG
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> On 8/24/2013 4:19 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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>   Merle,
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> Utility is no measure of Truth.
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> Mike
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*Larry Maher*

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