Hi johnny 

Are you using nagios (within ZLB) to monitor servers or externally on another 
box.

I would have been less bothered about monitoring, other than over the last few 
days I have seen a number of failures and ZLB disguises the fault, certainly on 
the summary screen. The beauty of a load balancer is to offer system continuity 
during a fault. But without useful warning/alerting this situation can be worse 
than a single server failure.

Ta 
Nick  

Sent from my BlackBerry, sorry for the short reply.
Nick 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Johnny Handsome" <[email protected]>
Cc:  <[email protected]>

Sent: 20/02/2012 23:19:42
Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] Enhancement request -Farm        
Monitoring/SMTP

Hello,

I would agree with Emilio and crew, it shouldn't be on zen to monitor the 
status of servers.

I would recommend that a 2nd nic be but in servers and utilize that subnet to 
manage and monitor your servers.

For example I have 3 nicks in each server 
1 for the zen farm network
1 for my management access for the box
1 as a spare 

I also run nagios that monitors various aspects of each of my real servers and 
alerts me if there is a failure or issue with the box or a service on the box.

So on my boxes I monitor the apache services and MySQL services. 

Johnny

On 2012-02-20, at 1:39 PM, "Emilio Campos" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hi Nick, At the moment we aren't going to develope a method to indicate the 
> users that a backends or a farms are down. As Marco wrote in other mail it is 
> work for your monitoring solution. But by other hand I think that your 
> proposal of indicate the backend status (how many are dead, how many are OK  
> or how many are in maintenance mode) in the global farm view is very 
> interesting, we are going to try to develope in new version
> 
> Regards!
> 
> 2012/2/20 Marco Tiggelaar - Key4ce <[email protected]>
> Actually.. "dedicated" monitoring's can be very cheap - and for those with a 
> Virtual environment --> you can run them with as little as 512 mb  for each.
> That aside for me it's mostly what is required to send out mails (postfix 
> etc) that ups the resources (every bit counts ;))
> 
> i do agree for some specially small environments it will be beneficial but it 
> should be some form of an option (if not for the resources then for double 
> mails on errors ;))
> 
> For the colors part i really haven't got much of an idea yet.. we have only 
> experimented with zen for a little bit.. and are currently waiting for NAT 
> support.
> (as anti-spam/ fail2ban/ etc can't work with sNAT so that means our servers 
> have to run less secure in case we want to use loadbalancer with sNAT at this 
> point - can't afford that with daily brute force attempts and 1000's of spams 
> ^^)
> 
> Little side note: hopefully NAT will be supported before Juli (thats when our 
> new environment will launch.. hoping to do that with a zen loadbalancer to go 
> with it haha :)
> 
> Regards,
> Marco
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Furnell <[email protected]>
> Reply-to: Nick Furnell <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] Enhancement request - Farm 
> Monitoring/SMTP
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:21:55 +0000
> 
> Hi All   I understand the concerns about overloading ZLB by adding monitoring 
> tools, and the benefits of using external 'dedicated' monitoring equipment - 
> but we are not large enough to have that level of monitoring, but benefit 
> massively from the load balancing ZLB offers.   So a simple SMTP report on 
> exception changes to Farm status, 'real' server availability, FarmGuardian 
> triggers - would be helpful.   Even if this SMTP feed can't cant be done, how 
> about a series of colours? We already have RED for OFF, GREEN for ON, YELLOW 
> for MAINTENANCE... how about BLUE for 'FarmGuardian fault'?   I think a quick 
> the summary screen could also display a quick count - maybe a percentage of 
> 'availability' ? eg Example Farm A - 5 real servers, 1 in maintenance mode, 1 
> with FarmGuardian fault  ->  would show 60% available   What do you think? 3 
> greens 1 yellow 1 blue   Nick 
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