Jay,

I might be wrong, but I don't think it is directly Zen's problem as they use
iptables program for netfilter (http://www.netfilter.org/). So, you are
trying to do IP NAT from a network A to the same network A (while it should
be from network A to network B). That is what probably confuses netfilter
and probably it is by design. Just accept it like it is. Btw, same stuff
happens on another load balancers I tried (as majority of them are running
on Linux).

Basically the best setup is: set up ZLB with 2 network cards: one looking
into router/internet, another one into your back end servers on a separate
network.

Dima


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay A. Rossignol [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] How to log request activity for
troubleshooting l4txnat farms

Hi Dima and Laura,

Thank you so much for your replies!  While I understand that a l4txnat farm
does not work properly if the real servers are on the same subnet as the
farm and when the request comes from an IP also on the same subnet, I am not
understanding how that is related to this situation.  All requests to this
farm come from external addresses and all requests to the real servers come
from the DNAT farm and are configured to respond through the load balancer's
IP as its gateway.  

If there is some unknown bug that surfaces when l4txnat farms are on the
same subnet as their real servers, then that is a different matter and I'll
certainly reconfigure my environment.    Otherwise, I don't see how it
applies.  Especially since the customers who are having problems are
demonstrably coming from external IPs.  Could you explain?

Thank you!

- Jay

 
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:26:11 -0500
From: "Dima Polyakov" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] How to log request activity      for
        troubleshooting
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Jay,

If you look on mailing list there was a similar question when l4 farm worked
and sometimes it did not - the reason for that was that backend servers were
set up on the same subnet as VIP for the farm (your case). I believe it was
Laura who said for l4 farm you should have different subnet for backend
servers, so NAT will work properly.
I can confirm, that when I changed to different subnet, my farm star working
fine. Then I added extra adapters to each server to have a direct local
network connection from/to other servers (outside of farm) in our network.

You can also google "iptables" and its logs.

Dima

Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 22:34:15 +0100
From: Laura Garcia <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zenloadbalancer-support] How to log request activity for
        troubleshooting
To: "[email protected]"
        <[email protected]>
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        <CAF90-Wiij-98dkM8QzxQvAiKH6tB6GX_8pHxiQ1=ff4ar0c...@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi, exactly. As the NAT mode work properly, you're missing something with
the DNAT configuration.

The best way to know what is happening in your network is through tcpdump or
similar.

Regards.





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