On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:04:53AM -0600, Matthew Ahrens wrote: > Mark Maybee wrote: > >Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > >>On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 06:05:56PM -0700, Matthew.Ahrens at sun.com wrote: > >>>Author: Matthew Ahrens <Matthew.Ahrens at Sun.COM> > >>>Repository: /hg/onnv/onnv-gate > >>>Latest revision: f41cf682d0d3e3cf5c4ec17669b903ae621ef882 > >>>Total changesets: 1 > >>>Log message: > >>>PSARC/2009/204 ZFS user/group quotas & space accounting > >> > >>Great to see this functionality integrated, but if I read the diff > >>properly, zfs allow/unallow command will now call Python scripts from > >>inside zfs utility? Is that right? This is quite important for me, > >>because if that's true this means I've to remove delegations from > >>FreeBSD, because we don't have Python in base system. > >> > >Yes, this is true, both user quotas and delegations now use python > >for their CLI processing. Its likely that other ZFS CLI subcommands > >will go this direction as well. Its unfortunate that Python isn't > >available in the base FreeBSD... is it possible that you could bundle > >it with the ZFS distro (or make it a dependency for the install)?
It depends if Python is needed for zfs tools to compile. If not I think it is fair to just print a warning that one needs to install Python to be able to use particular commands. > Wow, I always thought Solaris was the last to distribute new tools! :) Well, at some point (during FreeBSD 4.x) we had perl in the base. It was decided to kick it out from the base and never repeat that mistake:) The reasons I gathered were as follows: - Perl API was unstable (Python might be different...), - It was a real PITA to keep it up-to-date in the base, - OS release tends to be around much longer than perl/python versions and people always wanted to have the latest one; all in all people were installing newer version of perl and it was confusing to have two perl version - one (older) from the base and another from the ports collection, I wish you to be more successful with Python:) > Yep. In the short term, you could maintain the old allow/unallow C code. > The kernel interfaces haven't changed, and no new functionality has been > added, so that should work fine. > > You could also use the python code, but notify people that certain > subcommands will only work once you install the python package. Yes, that's probably the best I can do. Thank you both. -- Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd at FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-code/attachments/20090422/dc5abf92/attachment.bin>
