the up/down/up/down/... scenario should give the best results in minimizing 
accumulative rotation vibration.

-=dave

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dave Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Christopher Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] New zfs pr0n server :)))


>
> I've seen the page with the pics of that server, and I agree with this 
> issue
> So I'd like to try to reverse half of the disks too, how would you advice
> to do this?
> My current setup is as follows, where up is normal disk upside paced, and 
> down is with upside plate down and electronics side up:
> up
> up
> up
> up
> up
> up
> up
> up
>
> would it be better to do this:
> up
> down
> up
> down
> up
> down
> up
> down
>
> or this:
> up
> up
> up
> up
> down
> down
> down
> down
>
> or maybe this?
> up
> up
> down
> down
> up
> up
> down
> down
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>
>
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 03:24:25PM -0700, Dave Johnson wrote:
>> Agreed !
>>
>> However, you may be able to lower the sound ever so slightly more by
>> staggering the drives so that every other one is upside down, spinning 
>> the
>> opposite direction and thus minimizing accumulative rotational vibration.
>>
>> I had to make a makeshift temporary server when our NAS gateway device 
>> had
>> a problem that required we reinitialize the array (after moving all data
>> off of course).  I used a Coolermaster CM Stacker with 16x750GB drives in
>> SATA 4-drive carriers all going the same direction and the system made a
>> horrendous oscillating buzz, as well as the occasional drive timeout
>> warning from the RAID controller when the system was under high load (all
>> drives part of single RAID6 array).
>>
>> After some thought, I decided to turn 2 of the 4 drive cages upside down 
>> so
>> that the config had 4 drives spinning normally, 4 upside down, 4 
>> normally,
>> and finally another 4 upside down.  The oscillation was gone completely 
>> as
>> were the rare drive timeouts under load.
>>
>> Your laced setup places the drives in so much dampening that it might not
>> make much of a difference but still, might as well take care of it now
>> rather than later when it's all buttoned up if it starts buzz.  It
>> certainly couldn't hurt.
>>
>> -=dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Christopher Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Diego Righi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: <zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] New zfs pr0n server :)))
>>
>>
>> >Wow, what a creative idea. And I'll bet that allows for much more
>> >airflow than the 4-in-3 drive cages do. Very nice.
>> >
>> >On 9/6/07, Diego Righi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>Unfortunately it only comes with 4 adapters, bare metal adapters 
>> >>without
>> >>any dampering /silencing and so on...
>> >>...anyway I wanted to make it the most silent I could, so I suspeded 
>> >>all
>> >>the 10 disks (8 sata 320gb and a little 2,5" pata root disk) with a
>> >>flexible wire, like I posted in this italian forum, the page is in
>> >>italian, but the pictures show the concept well enough:
>> >>http://www.pcsilenzioso.it/forum/showthread.php?t=2397
>> >>
>> >>
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