On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 09:28, Erik Trimble <erik.trim...@sun.com> wrote:
> I'm pretty darned sure that the LSI 1068-based HBAs will do "true"
> JBOD.  Supermicro makes two such beasts:  AOC-USAS-L8i  and
> AOC-USASLP-L8i     Both are 8-port PCI-Express x4 cards.
No, both are UIO cards.  They're compatible with PCI express x8 (not
x4) but they're mirrored top-for-bottom.  Take a closer look at the
pictures [1] [2]; these cards are designed to share a slot with a
standard one (think of the PCI+ISA boards that used to exist).  On a
standard PCI device, the PCB is toward the top when mounted in a
standard case, but these cards go in the other way around.  I haven't
heard anything definitive about whether these work in a standard x8
slot, but I wouldn't assume that they work.

>> ... I've bumped into both Sun OEM Adaptec and HP OEM Megaraid at work and 
>> none of them would do true JBOD; No disks showed up in format. I had to 
>> configure 1-disk volumes in BIOS to simulate JBOD, and from what I 
>> understand this writes this config to disk destroying any existing data and 
>> partitioning, and what shoes up in format is *not* the disks (i.e. 
>> SEAGATE/IBM/whatever) but the logical volumes (i.e. Sun-STK RAID EXT or 
>> HP-LOGICAL VOLUME)
This is still the case, judging from my x4150s.

>> I would like to have a HBA that is just (like the AOC-SAT2-MV8):
>> + Plug the pieces together
>> + power on
>> + devfsadm
>> + zpool create
The LSI cards fulfill this requirement.

You might consider a case with a SAS expander in it; you can plug sata
disks into it, and it eliminates the need for a large number of
controller ports.  The Supermicro SC846e1 [3] does this; you can plug
24 disks into one SAS controller.  The power supply fans are fairly
noisy, though, for a home box.  You could also take a look at a
standalone SAS expander; Chenbro sells one called the CK12801 [4] that
would suit the purpose, and might be cheaper than buying additional
controller ports.  An 8-port LSI card with two of those expanders
would run about $750, and support 32 drives.  Compared to an Areca
card of that size, that's a good deal.  I haven't seen anyone running
the Chenbro expanders, but if they perform as specified they're
convenient.

Will

[1]: http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm
[2]: http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm
[3]: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/846/SC846E1-R900.cfm
[4]: http://www.valleyseek.com/product.action?itemID=83883
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