Hi Tonmaus,

> they are the new revision. 

OK.

> I got the impression as well that the complaints you
> reported were mainly related to embedded Linux
> systems probably running LVM / mda. (thecus, Qnap,
> ....) Other reports I had seen related to typical HW
> raids. I don't think the situation is comparable to
> ZFS. 

That could be the case, but maybe I'll have to create a specific thread along 
the lines of "Anyone having success / problems with WD Green drives?" in order 
to know a bit more details. There were Mac users also complaining -- see the 
WDC links in the "Best 1.5TB drives" thread.

> I have also followed some TLER related threads here.
> I am not sure if there was ever a clear assertion if
> consumer drive related Error correction will affect a
> ZFS pool or not. Statistically we should have a lot
> of "restrictive TLER settings helped me to solve my
> ZFS pool issues" success reports here, if it were.

IIRC I think Richard said that he thought that a troublesome non-RAID drive 
would affect MTTR and not reliability. I.e. you'll have to manually intervene 
if a consumer drive causes the system to hang, and replace it, whereas the RAID 
edition drives will probably report the error quickly and then ZFS will rewrite 
the data elsewhere, and thus maybe not kick the drive.

So it sounds preferable to have TLER in operation, if one can find a 
consumer-priced drive that allows it, or just take the hit and go with whatever 
non-TLER drive you choose and expect to have to manually intervene if a drive 
plays up. OK for home user where he is not too affected, but not good for 
businesses which need to have something recovered quickly.

> That all rather points to singular issues with
> firmware bugs or similar than to a systematic issue,
> doesn't it?

I'm not sure.

Cheers,
Simon
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