> It seems they kind of rushed the appliance into the market. We've a few 7410s 
> and replication (with zfs send/receive) doesn't work after shares reach ~1TB 
> (broken pipe error). 

While it's the case that the 7000 series is a relatively new product, the 
characterization of "rushed to market" is inaccurate. While the product 
certainly has had bugs, we've been pretty quick to address them (for example, 
the issue you described).

> It's frustrating and we can't do anything because every time we type "shell" 
> in the CLI, it freaks us out with a message saying the warranty will be 
> voided if we continue. I bet that we could work around that bug but we're not 
> allowed and the workarounds provided by Sun haven't worked.

I can understand why it might be frustrating to feel shut out of your customary 
Solaris interfaces, but it's not Solaris: it's an appliance. Arbitrary actions 
that might seem benign to someone familiar with Solaris can have disastrous 
consequences -- I'd be happy to give some examples of the amusing ways our 
customers have taken careful aim and shot themselves in the foot.

> Regarding dedup, Oracle is very courageous for including it in the 2010.Q1 
> release if this comes to be true. But I understand the pressure on then. 
> Every other vendor out there is releasing products with deduplication. 
> Personally, I would just wait 2-3 releases before using it in a black box 
> like the 7000s.

We're including dedup in the 2010.Q1 release, and as always we would not 
release a product we didn't stand behind. ZFS dedup still has some performance 
pathologies and surprising results at times; we're working our customers to 
ensure that their deployments are successful, and fixing problems as they come 
up.

> The hardware on the other hand is incredible in terms of resilience and 
> performance, no doubt. Which makes me think the pretty interface becomes an 
> annoyance sometimes. Let's wait for 2010.Q1 :)

As always, we welcome feedback (although zfs-discuss is not the appropriate 
forum), and are eager to improve the product.

Adam

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Adam Leventhal, Fishworks                        http://blogs.sun.com/ahl

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