On Apr 8, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Ian Collins <i...@ianshome.com> wrote:

> On 04/ 9/11 03:20 AM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Evaldas Auryla<evaldas.aur...@edqm.eu>  wrote:
>>> On 04/ 8/11 01:14 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>>>>> You have built-in storage failover with an AR cluster;
>>>>> and they do NFS, CIFS, iSCSI, HTTP and WebDav
>>>>> out of the box.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And you have fairly unlimited options for application servers,
>>>>> once they are decoupled from the storage servers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It doesn't seem like much of a drawback -- although it
>>>>> may be for some smaller sites. I see AR clusters going in
>>>>> in local high schools and small universities.
>>>>> 
>>>> Which is all fine and dandy if you have a green field, or are willing to
>>>> re-architect your systems.  We just wanted to add a couple more x4540s!
>>> Hi, same here, it's a sad news that Oracle decided to stop x4540s 
>>> production line. Before, ZFS geeks had choice - buy 7000 series if you want 
>>> quick "out of the box" storage with nice GUI, or build your own storage 
>>> with x4540 line, which by the way has brilliant engineering design, the 
>>> choice is gone now.
>> Okay, so what is the great advantage
>> of an X4540 versus X86 server plus
>> disk array(s)?
>> 
> One less x86 box (even more of an issue now we have to mortgage the children 
> for support), a lot less $.
> 
> Not to mention an existing infrastructure built using X4540s and me looking a 
> fool explaining to the client they can't get any more so the systems we have 
> spent two years building up are a dead end.
> 
> One size does not fit all, choice is good for business.

I'm not arguing. If it were up to me,
we'd still be selling those boxes.

Mark
> 
> -- 
> Ian.
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