On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Arne Jansen <sensi...@gmx.net> wrote:

> On 10/20/2012 01:10 AM, Tim Cook wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Arne Jansen <sensi...@gmx.net
> > <mailto:sensi...@gmx.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 10/19/2012 09:58 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote:
> >     > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Arne Jansen <sensi...@gmx.net
> >     <mailto:sensi...@gmx.net>
> >     > <mailto:sensi...@gmx.net <mailto:sensi...@gmx.net>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it
> >     >     can be found here:
> >     >
> >     >     http://cr.illumos.org/~webrev/sensille/fits-send/
> >     >
> >     >     It adds a command 'zfs fits-send'. The resulting streams can
> >     >     currently only be received on btrfs, but more receivers will
> >     >     follow.
> >     >     It would be great if anyone interested could give it some
> testing
> >     >     and/or review. If there are no objections, I'll send a formal
> >     >     webrev soon.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Please don't bother changing libzfs (and proliferating the
> copypasta
> >     > there) -- do it like lzc_send().
> >     >
> >
> >     ok. It would be easier though if zfs_send would also already use the
> >     new style. Is it in the pipeline already?
> >
> >     > Likewise, zfs_ioc_fits_send should use the new-style API.  See the
> >     > comment at the beginning of zfs_ioctl.c.
> >     >
> >     > I'm not a fan of the name "FITS" but I suppose somebody else
> already
> >     > named the format.  If we are going to follow someone else's format
> >     > though, it at least needs to be well-documented.  Where can we
> >     find the
> >     > documentation?
> >     >
> >     > FYI, #1 google hit for "FITS":  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FITS
> >     > #3 hit:  http://code.google.com/p/fits/
> >     >
> >     > Both have to do with file formats.  The entire first page of google
> >     > results for "FITS format" and "FITS file format" are related to
> these
> >     > two formats.  "FITS btrfs" didn't return anything specific to the
> file
> >     > format, either.
> >
> >     It's not too late to change it, but I have a hard time coming up with
> >     some better name. Also, the format is still very new and I'm sure
> it'll
> >     need some adjustments.
> >
> >     -arne
> >
> >     >
> >     > --matt
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sure we can come up with something.  Are you planning on this being
> > solely for ZFS, or a larger architecture for replication both directions
> > in the future?
>
> We have senders for zfs and btrfs. The planned receiver will be mostly
> filesystem agnostic and can work on a much broader range. It basically
> only needs to know how to create snapshots and where to store a few
> meta informations.
> It would be great if more filesystems would join on the sending side,
> but I have no involvement there.
>
> I see no basic problem in choosing a name that's already in use.
> Especially with file extensions most will be already taken. How about
> something with 'portable' and 'backup', like pib or pibs? 'i' for
> incremental.
>
> -Arne
>
>
Re-using names generally isn't a big deal, but in this case the existing
name is a technology that's extremely similar to what you're doing - which
WILL cause a ton of confusion in the userbase, and make troubleshooting far
more difficult when searching google/etc looking for links to documents
that are applicable.

Maybe something like far - filesystem agnostic replication?
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