Unfortunately, it is what Liberal now means in the US. It used to be that liberal was one that sought to help the underdog with smart assistance from government, while ensuring the freedoms of the average joe. But the term "liberal" has been co-opted by fringe groups in the US. Gore is a perfect example of what liberal now means in the US: follows the extreme environmental tactics, reproductive rights, and the "rights" of perverse groups.
In reality, it is a party issue, in that the party has been co-opted from where it was just a few decades ago. My parents were Independents, but had voted frequently for Democrats before Reagan. They passed around a petition to have Ford impeached for pardoning Nixon. But my Mom would never vote for a Democrat on the national level with how the party has gone. I would imagine that in Utah, the Democratic party is probably a little more conservative, as sections of it tend to be in the South. here's a stump question: Can anyone tell me the name of the Democratic Georgia Senator who tends to vote frequently with the Republicans and Bush? (I know the answer, and I can tell you that if there were more guys in the Democratic party like him- who vote on principle and not on party platform, I'd possibly vote Democrat). K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smith gszion1 @juno.com http://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: This is not what liberal means to me at all. But I won't argue the point any further -- the term, like the demonization, doesn't translate well across borders. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================