I should answer my own earlier, rhetorical question to make one point plain (and I agree with what you said, btw, this is just an additional point): vis-a-vis coffee/tea and caffeine. I would not have a problem with the occasional popping of a caffeine pill if you're driving late at night for a long period of time, for instance, but I'd do it with great care, as it's also an addictive drug. OTOH, I wouldn't drink decaf coffee, either -- to me that's a clear violation of the WoW. Your verstage may vary.
For an Albertan, despite this being the home of k d lang, who we consider as a bit of an, er, aberration, anyway, it's hard for us to give up our meat. We had emu meat the other day, and Cathy was tempted to pick up a couple of bison steaks at the farmer's market at the main mall in Spruce Grove last weekend, but it was a bit pricey so she settled for SuperStore beef. When I was young and reckless (as opposed to being middle-aged and reckless), I used to entertain customers -- take them to lunch, and even on rare occasions, to dinner. We once had this small group come up from the U. of Michigan. They had developed a special array processor which would have application in the oil industry (seismic processing is computer intensive) and our company was going to represent them in Canada. So I took the group to Smuggler's Inn on Macleod Trail in Calgary, which featured, and I kid you not, 24 oz prime rib (remember: that's all meat -- no bone, like a steak). It was a good inch thick and covered the whole plate. The president of the company ordered it on a dare from one of his techies, and when it arrived, he just kept staring at it, saying, over and over, "I can't eat this, I can't eat this..." I settled for a more "reasonable " 16 oz ;-) I know a cowboy restaurant/bar off the LBJ freeway in Dallas which serves 48-oz steaks. We used to have a restaurant in Edmonton, called the Ranchman's, which served them, too, but I don't know if they still do. Once I took some Scottish doctors and nurses to lunch at a British pub on Calgary Trail (Mark will probably know the Lion's Head, in the office tower/hotel complex just north of Whitemud Crossing). They decided to have venison on buns, and after the nurse from Aberdeen, a sweet lady about a year from retirement, was halfway through it, I leaned over and said, "You know, of course, Mrs. Crampton, that you're eating a Bambiburger?" She almost threw it across the table. I'm so mean. Jon Spencer wrote: > We all know the caffeine thing. (Actually, one of the funny little side > comments from the movie "Singles Ward" is about how his girlfriend is less > than enthusiastic about him because she found a couple of empty Dr. Pepper > bottles in his car. Ya gotta see this movie if you haven't!) > > I clearly didn't mean that it meant that we should be vegetarians (given my > signature line). However, I think that the meaning is quite clear, and that > we would probably all do better, and receive more blessings, if we followed > the WoW a little more closely than we do (myself included). And I do not > need to rely on the prophets for something that, as far as I know, they have > not commented upon. I believe that it is up to me to understand the best I > can. > > And as far as I can tell, the veggies live the WoW better, on this topic, > than does the average member I know (myself included). > > Jon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: [ZION] "Social" Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...) > > I think it means what it says, but the point is that modern-day prophets > have > defined what the WoW means for us. I'll give you an example. Many people > assume it > means no caffeine, but if that were the case a good portion of OTC drugs > that we > take would be verboten. Is decaff okay? No. Clearly we're not to drink > coffee or > (green/black) tea. That's what it means, not "no caffeine." We tend to get > bogged > down in unimportant details. > > But in any case the phrase you quote doesn't mean vegetarianism, as a > vegetarian > will eat no meat, not just "eat meat sparingly." > > Jon Spencer wrote: > > > So exactly what does (paraphrasing from memory) the following mean: "eat > > meat sparingly and only in the winter" ? > > > > Jon, soon to be on his way for a quarter pounder with cheese > > > > Marc A. Schindler wrote: > > > > Again, I say, we should follow the commandments of the prophets, and they > > have > > told us to get involved in politics. I don't see that that implies > > necessarily > > that we'll get involved at the expense of the Gospel. Quite the opposite, > > since > > we're doing what we're told to do. It's just like the Word of Wisdom -- > some > > people take it to extremes, trying to convert others to, say, > vegetarianism > > on > > the supposed basis of the WoW. > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > -- Marc A. 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