Ron, You may be right.  As a matter of fact I agree with you.

However, Elder Nelson does not.  He says that God's love is conditional upon
righteousness.

In conference yet

George


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From: "Ron Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Is God's Love Unconditional?


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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 8:18 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ZION] Is God's Love Unconditional?
> >SNIP<
> > God's love is certainly unconditional in the sense that he loves all his
> > children, probably even Lucifer.  But his willingness and ability
> > to bless
> > those he loves is predicated upon their cooperation and
> > obedience.  He not
> > only will not force any man to heaven, he cannot.
> >
> > Is God's love unconditional?  Yes or no depending on what you mean by
> > "unconditional."<
>
>
> I may have posted too hastily and therefore didn't clarify well.  Fact is,
I
> think we agree.  But, this whole issue gets so bolluxed-up (witness the
> confusing faith/works/grace piece in ths months Engisn) that I'll try one
> more time to explain myself.
>
> God's love for us is unconditional.  Because he loves, he is ever-ready to
> go to bat for us.  That is, he is ready to fogive us our errors when we
are
> ready to acknowledge them and repent.  It follows that he can't begin to
> bless us UNTIL we choose to be obedient, nor can be bestow more blessing
on
> us unless we consistently heed His counsel.
>
> God's unconditional love has absolutely nothing to the with the heretical
> doctrine of "eat, drink, be merry and repent on your death" you wrote
about
> so colorfully.  No doubt God, because He loves us unconditionally, can,
and
> probably does forgive someone who sincerely repents on his deathbed.  But,
> God can not begin to bestow blessing -- okay, call them rewards if you
> insist -- until one has begun to live by His word.
>
> Finally, recall that Christ's unconditional love for us -- his grace --
> guarantees all of us eternal life. What kind of eternal life we are given
> depends on His assessment of our faithfulness.
>
> I hope this is clearer than the earlier post.
>
> Ron
>
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