Hmm, on second thought.... ;-) In looking into this a bit more (for example avro http://www.mail-archive.com/avro-...@hadoop.apache.org/msg03603.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/avro-...@hadoop.apache.org/msg03688.html) we should also call an official vote on this. All the better if we can put together a proposal similar to what Doug has done in the provided "vote" link. We'll need to provide this to the PMC & Board anyway, so we should get our cards in order. A couple issues I notice from the links (please read them):
1) site: we'll be moving from hadoop.apache.org to zookeeper.apache.org 2) initial PMC members, notice doug says: "I suggest that initial Avro PMC consist of all active Avro committers at the time we make the formal proposal. This is typical for new TLPs. (Subsequently PMCs tend to promote committers to the PMC. The Hadoop PMC generally promotes committers to the PMC after a year of consistent activity, while some projects immediately add new committers to their PMC. But we don't need to decide our policy for new PMC membership now, only the makeup of the initial PMC.)" I suggest that we make our current committers PMC members similar to this. 3) on a zookeeper chair, again from avro: "I nominate myself as the initial chair of the Avro PMC, with the proviso that we adopt a policy of regular chair replacement. I suggest that Avro PMC chairs serve a one or two-year term. A PMC chair has no morepower than other PMC members, but rather has a few more duties. In particular, the chair must submit written quarterly reports to the board describing the health of the projects developer community. The chair also maintains subversion permissions and committer account creation." I nominate myself as the initial chair. I also like this idea of regular chair replacement for a number of reasons. What do you folks think? Should I put this into a draft proposal and call an official vote on our zookeeper-dev list? Patrick On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > Good to see we are in agreement on this. Thanks everyone who voted. Looks > like this is unanimous at this point. I will > start the proceedings in the Hadoop PMC to make ZooKeeper a TLP. > > Patrick > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Flavio Junqueira <f...@yahoo-inc.com>wrote: > >> +1. Frankly, I don't see concretes benefits for the community with >> ZooKeeper becoming a TLP, but perhaps it will become clear over time. Now it >> is certainly cool to have our own top-level domain: >> http://zookeeper.apache.org/ rocks! >> >> -Flavio >> >> On Oct 14, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> ben >> >> On 10/14/2010 11:47 AM, Henry Robinson wrote: >> >> +1, >> >> >> I agree that we've addressed most outstanding concerns, we're ready for >> >> TLP. >> >> >> Henry >> >> >> On 14 October 2010 13:29, Mahadev Konar<maha...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: >> >> >> +1 for moving to TLP. >> >> >> Thanks for starting the vote Pat. >> >> >> mahadev >> >> >> >> On 10/13/10 2:10 PM, "Patrick Hunt"<ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> >> In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and >> >> Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: >> >> >> Original discussion >> >> http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin >> >> >> I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we >> >> were >> >> not "ready" to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and >> >> limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that >> >> discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to >> >> attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions >> >> come >> >> in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these >> >> concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about >> >> this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. >> >> >> A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's >> >> connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been >> >> assured >> >> (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; >> >> pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The >> >> Hadoop >> >> ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. >> >> >> Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially >> >> operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members >> >> have >> >> little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for >> >> them >> >> to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern >> >> ourselves and better set our direction. >> >> >> I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with >> >> your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once >> >> discussion settles. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *flavio* >> *junqueira* >> >> research scientist >> >> f...@yahoo-inc.com >> direct +34 93-183-8828 >> >> avinguda diagonal 177, 8th floor, barcelona, 08018, es >> phone (408) 349 3300 fax (408) 349 3301 >> >> >> >
