[Eron] Yeah, this is something I'd be very interested in knowing, too. In fact, this particular ability could make or break a community project I'm going to be developing with Zope in the near future. Do you mean like the pluggable access that ZServer provides? I imagine there would also have to be some kind of pass-through backend storage to the actual service layer (like IMAP, for instance). This is definitely something I've been thinking about. [Eron] Getting my gears turning, Eron
My thinking is that the protocol(s) that people might develop would be action-interfaces to Zope objects and methods. The canon example is IMAP, I guess. Someone might finish up something like http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/MyWiki/IMAPServer , and access/create/control Zope objects persisted directly in ZODB, using variations on the classes people already have for the various Zope Email Clients. Add Binari's IMAP Plug-In to the ubiquitous Outlook, and you've got a poor-man's Exchange Server*. To get public folder workflow, you'd need to use CMF (or Openflow), but that should change by the time Zope3 takes shape, workflow will apparently be native to Zope. (Can't wait) Jabber (or IRC, etc.) would be a slightly different use case. Jabber.py's maturation might mean that you could have a small number of users conferences authenticated against Zope's users. The users would use normal Jabber clients, but this should make web-chat interfaces very doable, too. A Zope Jabber protocol server might implement active conversations in session memory, and persist to Zope objects in response to a Jabber command. Jabber's logging idioms produce XML documents in the jabber.org implementation, ours would be Zope objects or whatever was needed by the developer. The back-end would be all Zope's turf. As for LDAP, existing LDAP products connect to external LDAP servers. But wouldn't it be useful if Zope's user database, and other folderish resources could be exposed as LDAP, with Zope as the server? A Dynamic DNS protocol handler could pump authenticated user's IP info into the LDAP tree, and so on. I'm probably getting ahead of myself here, its not like python implementations of these sophisticated protocols grow on trees. But they do seem to get started in the python community from time to time, and if Zope offered an easy way to hook a budding protocol implementation in to a mature application server, there might be a lot of can-do attitude to getting them beyond alpha stage. The key would be if the developer could add/delete/configure protocol products as easily as content products. As I said, It wouldn't take much for Zope to be a great Exchange drop-in replacement in your typical small business. It wouldn't really matter that much if python implementations of these protocols didn't have the scalability of their C-based brethren, lots of small Zopes doing big-server work would be a nice thing to develop against. * Better than Exchange, IMHO, because you'd have to be nuts to deploy Exchange or Small Business Manager in a real small business with no on-site IS Manager to handle backups or Active Directory admin duties. _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )