-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was >> consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. > > Oh, there is! > >> If you can advise a different way to avoid pulling in >> ``zope.app.testing`` I'm happy to revert the change; otherwise I think >> we should live and let live with it since it at the very least does the job. > > There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; > because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show > whether there are problems when it's removed. If you want to fly what > you test, test dependencies can't be eliminated.
BTW, that phrase is disingeuous: as one who worked on testing one of the earliest fly-by-wire fighter jets[1] (long ago in a galaxy far far away), I can assure you that the plane did *not* have all its various test jigs attatched to it as it rolled down the runway. - Before assembly, components get tested in isolation using whatever jigs were appropriate, with testing done at each "rollup" of a new assembly. - After integration into the airframe, the set of tests possible were vastly reduced: a minimal set of tests could be done in a preflight check without external equipment, but any failure in such a test resulted in pulling the indicated part for diagnosis using dedicated equipment. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16_Falcon#Fly-by-wire Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIuWiZ+gerLs4ltQ4RAkzBAKCY7ldytq7k9TqaDWljm2gk39DhGQCgl+c9 R+dM/gOr/v/O4f8Ww/xV61o= =Yy63 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
