On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:04, Hermann Himmelbauer <du...@qwer.tk> wrote: > What I don't see in your proposal is, how these subset-groups would be > coordinated, which leads to the following: > > - How would these groups be formed? If there's nobody who encourages people to > do so,
They will be formed by people grouping together to work on a piece of software, if such a group is necessary. > - Higher level package/groups may have a hard life in case basic > packages/groups are not coordinated and all "go their own way". Then these "higher level groups" will help coordinate the lower level packages. > - How does some foreigner know, if a package is actively supported, > umaintaned, deprecated etc.? How does he know, what packages exist, what they > are good for and the like? For instance, I yesterday wrote that I use > lovely.remotetask, then I was asked on the list why I did not use the (maybe > better) zc.async package. Know why? I did not know that it existed. > > - I think, Zope 3 is not only about some seperate packages, but about a > complete "programming experience". Thus there needs to be some integrating > force, that draws together all these packages, writes some documentation / > tutorial / website etc. > > - Newbies won't be attracted by single packages. Instead, they want something > complete. Who would be interested in Plone if it would consist of various > packages that people would have to draw together by themselves, without > decent documentation? > > To my mind, one key point is attracting more users. And that can only be done > if we try to view things from an external, newbie-perspective. Some Ruby on > Rails / Java / Turbogears programmer will only be attracted by some "big > picture" but probably not by a collection of some subpackages. > > So, my impression is that there is a need for some steering group, that will, > however, encourage people to form groups around packages and maintain them. The steering group would not and could not help with any of these problems. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )