Hey, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: >> Since Jim says you're not missing something, I'm going to add to the >> Zope Framework Steering Group decisions that this is enough and we >> could clean up __init__.py's to this if we would want to. > > So, let me try to understand the decision process here: > > 1. The extras_require is banned to enable building with regular > distutils.
Huh? What does this have to do with regular distutils? That never was mentioned in the extra discussion as far as I know. Anyway, extras_requires isn't banned at all. http://docs.zope.org/zopeframework/steeringgroup/decisions.html We're careful about extras as they can make it harder to reason about package dependencies. > 2. pkgutil is now banned which will prevent regular distutils from > working properly. > > What exactly do we want to achieve? Who banned pkgutil? I recorded this: * In namespace package's ``__init__.py`` we have been using the following boilerplate code:: try: import pkg_resources pkg_resources.declare_namespace(__name__) except ImportError: import pkgutil __path__ = pkgutil.extend_path(__path__, __name__) Since ``setuptools`` is a dependency of our packages anyway, we can instead do the following:: __import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__) Feel free to use that and also feel free to simplify existing ``__init__.py`` modules. Just make sure ``setuptools`` is a declared dependency of the package. I'm not very concerned with making regular distutils work myself; I don't really see the point as we're heavily committed to setuptools anyway as a project. Tres remarked that it might if we continued to write this. I don't quite see how that could be. People need setuptools installed anyway to be able to run the code in setup.py. To me, building with regular distutils is *not* interesting to the Zope Framework project at this stage. It just isn't capable enough and we can use our time a lot better than worry about that. Regards, Martijn _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
