-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote: >>>> Personally, I evaluate such eggs in a sandbox, and then add them to the >>>> project-specific index once I'm sure that they work with the other >>>> software in the index: I don't use PyPI at all when building out >>>> production sites. >>> That seems overly heavyweight for the average new user. >>> >>> "no, sorry, you can't use Zope 2.12 with anything other than what it >>> comes with unless you get your own egg repository running" >> Who is talking about an "average new user"? > > We're talking about the standard was of doing things, that encompasses > the average user. I don't see how the setup you describe can work unless > every user runs their own egg server...
That wasn't what I said: the "Personally" part was a pretty clear signal that I was being descriptive of my practices, and not prescriptive for others'. >> new stuff: it sucks as the basis for a repeatable build environment. > > I think that's a little harsh, if you use buildout and a locked down > versions section all you have to worry about is PyPI being down when you > don't have the eggs in a local buildout cache. No, you also have to worry about people removing eggs you formerly installed, or uploading new versions without changing the version number, or uploading new, backwards-compatibility-breaking versions, etc. *Nothing* about getting an egg from PyPI is repeatable. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ1k76+gerLs4ltQ4RAtXtAJ9fyMa0g6rB2dJN9soxwEvQ1Vho+gCdHvJw vDbs6CIqAYfvvDgdJm7Vrdc= =fRRq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )