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On 9 Oct 2006, at 17:10, Jim Fulton wrote:
I'll repeat that our commercial cluster is not the right place to
host
zope.org. We can't really give volunteers the access to do what
they need to
do.
Please explain why? There is no commercial customers on the boxes
zope.org
services are on, outside of the load balancer and squid, which are
not
necessary to make progress until things can be moved.
Because to do what people want to do, they think they need full sudo.
I'm not sure this is necessary. For example, it's possible that
it would be enough for many interesting tasks to give people
the ability to sudo to the user zope. We could do that.
Giving root access to those boxes is not a risk that we're willing
to take.
It's strange how that never used to be a problem before, and all of a
sudden it is. Jim, remember us exchanging emails in 2005 about
providing full sudo access for tasks like moving CMF from CVS to
Subversion? I still have that whole email exchange. There was no
discussion at all about full sudo access being a problem. Matter of
fact you were all for people stepping up to solve problems.
I would never have signed all those documents that gave me access as
a non-employee if I had known every root-access sysadmin task had to
be approved by ZC. If you take a look at http://www.zope.org/About
there is a specific systems admin group mentioned. That's what I
thought I signed up for. I guess I was mistaken.
jens
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