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On 22 Sep 2007, at 14:25, Chris Withers wrote:

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
I was talking about normal, straight Zoep 3 here...
Look at Phillip's book?

I suspect even the 2nd edition of that is out of date w.r.t. current practice, hence why I'm asking on the list ;-)

I don't think that's the case.

jens


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