Oh no!!! Zope by itself is bad enough. Do pull in more trouble. Zope needed to clean up before it goes too bad. Zope is powerful, but is already too difficult for beginner to learn. It is not easy to do simple things, I think this will destroy zope because It will bring in more different syntax, inconsistent implementation. Recently, there is a lots of things happening in zope, some is deeply in the root, like security, zodb, patterns, zcatalogue. If perl is going to be enter zope, couldnt it wait a bit after you clean up zope a little bit. Re-write dtml syntax and make zope dtml more easy to learn. I think that will be a bigger userbase than those perl wizzard. rgs, kentsin _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )