alan runyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>[...]. There are plenty JAVA
>programmers, with years of experience.
... for some value of 'experience'...
>[...] (forget this all inclusive
>stuff - thats why Vignette is getting a bad reputation).
>
Java, on the other hand, has had five years of the biggest industry
investment of "not-all-inclusive", and yet has to come up with a
development environment that matches Smalltalk-80 (there's one, but
that is not usable in the projects you sketch because it just started
supporting J2SE). Zope is already way beyond that and has actually
added new concepts.
Zope needs a /lot/ of work, especially in the direction of supporting
software development inside the system (rather than content and a
bit of SSI, where it excels now), but it is much more promising and
interesting than this whole Mainframes'r'Us J2EE stuff.
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