On 5/14/20 11:03 AM, Austin Hook wrote: > > Bravo, Aisha, > > I myself was wondering why "advocacy" no longer shows up on the lists of > OpenBSD mailing lists. It was a nice place to discuss ideas that are not > just confined to technical software matters. I see that is still works > however. Next thing is to ask the devs if they would consider putting it > back. > Thanks a lot.
Oh, I didn't know that it was removed. It would be really nice to have this up there again. I am going to start making a small website for interesting ports that could be done by new comers who want to help and start sending the things I find around the web about OpenBSD to some interesting news letters and undeadly, and also start contributing to undeadly.org (though that latter may take a while longer due to my busy schedule). Sending the undeadly articles to others through emails (I am using their rss at the moment) should be pretty easy. The current newsletters (that I follow) which I think are pretty popular and how I get a lot of the information about ongoings (outside of reddit :P) (1) cron.weekly: https://ma.ttias.be/cronweekly/ (2) linux journal: https://www.linuxjournal.com/ (3) linux foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/ (4) nix craft: https://www.cyberciti.biz/ Am open to other ideas. Aisha > Austin > > > On Thu, 14 May 2020, Aisha Tammy wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I was wondering why this list is a bit dead (?!) and hoping to gain >> some ideas for maybe reviving it. >> >> I totally understand that most people at openbsd are devs and would >> like to focus more on coding than advocacy so I was wondering if people >> like me who are not that techy (mostly small ports) can help with >> this part. >> >> I am open to constructive criticism, so please forgive me if I seem >> out of touch. I have been subscribed for close to a month and didn't >> notice a lot of things happening around here :( so I was hoping >> to spice things up a tiny bit. >> >> Most of the ways in which I have tried previously is my creating >> whole bunch of small openbsd github projects and sharing them on reddit >> and twitter. But like this is barely scratching the surface of social >> media. I feel like there is a lot more that could be done :) >> >> Some of the basic things which I feel like are low hanging fruits >> >> (1) Showcasing tutorials on setting up small projects. >> >> One of the things that people get a good feeling from (me included) >> is when we manage to get some service running, no matter how small >> or insignificant it is. Like getting my znc setup, I was riding on >> that high for like 2 weeks (I know this sounds a bit dumb cuz I am >> a noob, but it was pretty nice to feel like I accomplished something). >> >> So it might be nice to show how to set up small services. >> I mean things like setting up a blog (using worpress or similar), >> or a wiki, or a hugo/jekyll website. >> >> There are a lot of really nice blog posts by a lot of cool people >> which show work arounds (for quirks) for these things in OpenBSD. >> >> It might be nice to have some kind of highlights page at openbsd >> which shows these nice links. (I know undeadly.org exists but is >> not pointed to by openbsd.org, would be nice if that could be done >> if nothng else is possible) >> >> I feel like while OpenBSD has really awesome benefits, the communication >> of these with the community could do with some work. >> >> (2) Having a bit more of a social presence >> >> Doesn't need to be facebook/twitter. I know undeadly.org has some really nice >> articles with highlight for nice things happening in the tech/ports lists >> but unfortunately undeadly is not that well known >> >> While I am by no means a social media expert I still feel the lack of >> presence of OpenBSD in general media articles and published stories. >> >> I am open to some idea about how to try and increase this part. >> Some ways I can think of: >> A) Getting in contact with news letter publishers and letting them >> know of nice developments that have happened. I don't think that >> linux news letters would be averse to having openbsd information >> sent on them. >> I am sure a lot of them would love if we send them information >> and do some of the work of finding articles for them, which ties >> into my previous part of having a highlights page >> B) Having an official blog >> I feel like this is a pretty important thing, especially in nowadays, >> where most things are spread online. Having an official blog will make >> things very easy for a lot of people to get interested. I am sure that >> there are quite a lot of people willing to chip in for this part if it >> was announced that there is going to be such an endeavor. >> C) (A controversial point) Trying to make things look a bit more >> stylistic (please don't kill me T.T ) >> While I agree that clarity is the most important part a small amount >> of color in the official documentation is not the worst thing in >> the world. I am open to this part being thrown out. >> >> (3) Showcasing a page for people to get involved in various parts of >> the project >> >> Currently the pipeline to get involved seems like >> try out obsd -> find something you find is not working or you don't like -> >> find person working on it -> contact them -> bug report/patch to change >> (have I missed something?) >> This seems to be a tried and true pipeline which has worked so far. >> It might also be good to have a page of open quests/projects in openbsd >> where new people can contribute without having to delve too deep into >> system code. This was inspired by my recent forays into string algorithms >> on OpenBSD (nothing wrong with them, just that I was looking around and >> trying to see what could be changed/improved). >> >> Having devs post TODOs and help needed/appreciated into a web page allows for >> interested parties to get a better look at ongoing projects. >> >> Currently I haven't figured out anyway to see what current new projects >> are being developed in OpenBSD. I feel like showcasing ongoing projects >> is just as important as showing completed ones in the highlights. >> >> (While watching presentations are conferences is definitely one way to see >> ongoing projects it is nowhere near and optimal approach) >> >> ---- >> >> These three were my main points in sending this email. >> Sorry that it got a bit long in the process. >> >> Any things that I might be wrong about, I assure you I mean nothing harmful >> so do let me know what I have missed and erred on. >> I am only started using OpenBSD for a short while for less than 7-8 months >> but I feel like in those 7-8 months a lot of the things that I have learned >> could >> have benefited from the above points to make the transition simpler :) >> >> These are my personal thoughts so take them with handful of salt. >> >> Hope you all are staying safe, >> Aisha >>
