On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:26:25 -0600, Mark A. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Gilberto, > > At 08:07 PM 1/10/2005, you wrote: > >>Are dependent Manifestations also ruled out during the 1000 years?<< > > Yes. However, `Abdu'l-Baha wrote: > > "The station which he who hath truly recognized this Revelation will attain > is the same as the one ordained for such prophets of the house of Israel as > are not regarded as Manifestations `endowed with constancy.'" > - cited: Shoghi Effendi, World Order of Baha'u'llah, p.111 >
That's kind of interesting. It's reminiscent of a hadith. 'Ulama ummatee ka-anbiyya Bani Isra'il" "The Scholars [Knowers] of my Nation are like the prophets of the Children of Israel" > My own understanding of that statement has been that a person can reach the > spiritual station, or status, of a dependent Manifestation (following and > promoting the teachings of the supreme Manifestation) without actually being > one. > > >>I seem to recall banned any new person claiming to have revelation. I don't > >>remember it only limiting independent manifestations.<< > > Yes, I believe so. So I guess some of this whole question could depend on how the terms match up and how the "translations" are done. If the kashf or ilham given to saints is "revelation" then the Bahai faith would object to them before the 1000 years. Peace Gilberto "My people are hydroponic" __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
