Mark:
I am saying that "goodness" (or "badness") is simply a name to signify what a particular Prophet, group, or ordinary individual regards as being good (or bad).

JS:

So are you saying that nothing above and beyond what the Manifestations reveal exists in man's mind, heart, or his environment to manifest signs of and lessons on, goodness?  In other words, God has no interaction with man outside of the interaction between man and the Manifestation.  If goodness is only the product of the Pen and Tongue of the Manifestation, then animal behavior cannot be bad or good, since the animal cannot understand the Manifestation.  A snake biting and poisoning a rabbit, for example, cannot be described as 'bad' or 'murder'.  Likewise, since man cannot understand God, just as a dog cannot understand Baha'u'llah, we cannot know, and we cannot understand, what goodness or badness is to God except as manifested through His Manifestations. 

 

 


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