The Baha'i Studies Listserv How should people use consultation to arrive at public policy?
Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2013, at 13:08, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Susan, how would consultation work in the overall world rather than just in > the Baha'i community? You seem to forget about all the non-Baha'i religious > texts out there. You also seem to think that any group of people with any > types of religious beliefs can get together and consult with each other and > the result will be that people will naturally never do anything forbidden in > the Aqdas even without the knowledge of the Aqdas. > > Consultation would be impossible if it required all participants had to have > extensive knowledge of all religious texts ever. Also, all actions would be > impossible because of the possibility of being forbidden in some religious > text. > > How are people supposed to use consultation as a model without superimposing > Baha'i religious texts on non-Baha'is? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_text > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:53, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> Things >>> like adoption and marriage are private contracts and the government has no >>> reason to interfere is the standard Libertarian Right argument. >> >> I would largely agree with that except that in the case of adoption >> the 'contract' involves a party unable to speak up for themselves, >> namely the child. >> >> Also, what I've read from various blogs like >>> Karen Bacquet's blogs and various other is that the ideal of Baha'i >>> Administration and the reality of Baha'i Administration are two separate >>> things. Actually the stories I've read of Baha'i Administration in action >>> rivals North Korea, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and other such places in >>> terms of totalitarianism. >> >> If you use disgruntled ex-Baha'is as your source of information that >> is what you are going to hear. However, if you had actually interacted >> with the Baha'i community in real life rather than just on the >> internet I think you would have found out differently. >>> >>> Interesting side note, what if consultation resulted in the people involved >>> accepting anything forbidden by the Kitab-I-Aqdas? >> >> Consultation does not trump the Word of God. If it did, there would be >> no need for revelation. >> >>> Also, I find your description of Administrators to be not consistent with >>> the facts of how Administrators actually behave. >> >> And you know what about this from personal experience. Nothing. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:skg_z...@yahoo.com >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to >> mailto:leave-697861-1719008.2a3842ae5b2f7d34dd5fdfc724616...@list.jccc.edu >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu >> Or subscribe: >> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net >> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-697895-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu