On 7/28/2020 11:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 7/28/20 12:01 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
On Jul 28, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:

This leaves those of us using VAX emulation high and dry, still. HP was
unwilling to let VSE offer VAX licenses. Are there any good free/cheap
Alpha emulations that are at least as functional as SIMH is for VAX stuff?
That may be the way forward, at least until the x86 version ships. Do any
of these newer things still run VAX binaries? There's a bunch of old games
like old-school VMS Moria and BOSS (a science fiction game in the
Rogue/Moria tradition) that I'd like to me able to keep playing.

Mike

Games are among the things that often don’t work on the Alpha. I’m most 
familiar with trying to get DND running on Alpha.  You can always try to VEST 
the VAX binaries (that didn’t work with DND).  I have other software that 
requires VAX.

Unless my memory is failing, this is also a problem for DECnet routing, isn’t 
that VAX only?
That's what has always been said.  But I thought I read somewhere (maybe 
HECnet) that the Alpha/Integrity version could do some routing also.  I may 
have misunderstood.

I just applied for licenses, I’m curious to see what software is included, and 
if it opens up a newer version of OpenVMS/Alpha than HP was offering.  I’m also 
wondering if these licenses will work with older versions of OpenVMS (required 
for older Alpha’s).

I can answer this one.

Any license issued by VSI will be for a VSI version of VMS, therefore,
newer than anything from HPe.

VSI can not issue licenses for any HPe vresion of VMS so, no, these
licenses will not work for older versions of VMS.

The question that will be answered when someone gets the VSI CLP PAKs is will 
those PAKS work on an older version of OpenVMS?  The Hobbyist PAKs produced by 
Compaq and HP have always worked on current and older versions.  Is there 
something in the License Manager code that could limit it? The Hobbyist PAKS I 
have been getting for years all list DEC as the Producer even through the 
Compaq and HP years.  I suppose VSI could have engineered OpenVMS and/or the 
PAKS with VSI as the Producer which would probably limit them to working on VSI 
versions of OpenVMS.

bill

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John H. Reinhardt

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