On paper the VMAX batteries look very good -actually a lot better than very 
good.
I would be pretty surprised if they can actually do what they claim, but I 
don’t know that they don’t. This brings up the main issue with these batteries, 
many of them get quite erratic reviews. You might get a good one or you might 
not. I would do some research before buying, see what you can find on the 
various forums.

Joe
Coquina

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I am actually leaning toward the VMAX group 31, which I can buy directly from 
the company.  They are made in the US and Vietnam, appear to have good and 
complete specifications (cycling, design etc.).  I can get the Group 31 with 
135Ah for $349 vs. the Lifeline Group 31 which is 105 Ah for $428 from 
Defender.  It would be great if someone with more expertise looks at their data 
and see if I am missing something.  Dave

https://www.vmaxtanks.com/XTR31-135-12Volts-135AH-Deep-Cycle-XTREME-AGM-Battery-_p_176.html

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=lifeline-agm-deep-cycle-marine-battery-(gpl-31t)&path=-1|328|2289954|2289956&id=152242

David Knecht
Rear Commodore
Thames Yacht Club
New London, CT




On May 26, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
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I highly recommend Lifeline group 31

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There is a lot of reason to be concerned about off brands. Pretty much all 
cycling batteries of the same size will be about the same AH rating. There is 
no magic in lead batteries, the AH per pound is pretty consistent.  What 
matters *hugely* is the number of cycles that they can endure before being 
trashed. The various cheap Chinese imports are highly variable to say the 
least, their reviews are all over the place. Lifeline is usually considered the 
best AGM maker.
FYI – Deka makes all the West Marine AGMs, you might call around your local 
battery shop and see what they charge. They are worse than Lifelines, but if 
they crap out after a week at least you can return them to the store 😉
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA






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I have been following the battery discussion and have a question.  I need to 
replace my two 9 year old AGM batteries this season.  I have separate start and 
house batteries which can be combined if needed.  I don’t have large power 
needs (electronics, autopilot and fridge when cruising).  I have been reading 
and researching this and I am unsure of what to purchase.  From what I have 
read, AH is the important number to focus on.  Last time, I got Lifeline AGM 
group 27 from Defender.  Defender has 3 different group 27 batteries
Powertech rated at 92AH  which cost about $330
Lifeline      rated at 100AH for 432
Northstar   rated at 92AH for 457


From Amazon, I can get a VMAX group 27 with 100AH for $289 or a Universal with 
110 AH for $239.  Is there any reason to be concerned about less known (to me) 
brands from Amazon or does it make sense to just focus on the numbers?  Thanks- 
Dave


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1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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