Thanks, Stamatis

You are right, this discussion came up due to CALCITE-2885, it is not about the 
performance problem, it is the extension of RelMetadataQuery, because we add 
all kinds of top interfaces in RelMetadataQuery, e.g. the row count query [1].

When we add a new RelMetadataProvider, a corresponding interface/method should 
be added into RelMetadataQuery, but for current RelOpeCluster impl, we could 
not do that(with a always default instance)

As for the  methods in RelMetadataProvider, i only saw the usage of #handlers 
in RelMetadataQuery, and saw the reference you pase, it seems not that relevant 
with this topic. What do you think ?

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/941cd4e9540e3ef9b7c15daee42831a0c63da8b9/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/metadata/RelMetadataQuery.java#L222

Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年6月5日 +0800 AM6:44,Stamatis Zampetakis <zabe...@gmail.com>,写道:
> Thanks for bringing this up Danny.
>
> I guess the discussion came up due to CALCITE-2885 [1]. Looking back into
> it, I am not sure that the intention there is to make the RelMetadataQuery
> pluggable. We could possibly solve the performance problem without
> extending the RelMetadataQuery. We have to look again into this case.
>
> For more details regarding the existence of the two methods in
> RelMetadataProvider have a look in CALCITE-604 [2]. More general for the
> design of RelMetadataProvider you may find useful the description in [3].
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-2885
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-604
> [3]
> https://web.archive.org/web/20140624040836/www.hydromatic.net/wiki/RelationalExpressionMetadata/
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 7:48 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > > 1. Why we have 2 methods in RelMetadataProvider?
> >
> > The metadata system is complicated. We need to allow multiple handlers
> > for any given call. So, making a metadata call involves multiple
> > dispatch [1] based on the metadata method being called, the type of
> > RelNode, and the handlers that are registered. Also it needs to cache
> > results, and detect cycles. And the dispatch needs to be efficient, so
> > we generate janino code to do the dispatch, and re-generate when new
> > handlers or sub-classes of RelNode are added.
> >
> > I forget details, the two methods are basically required to allow us
> > to generate code to do the dispatch.
> >
> > > 2. We should make the RelMetadataQuery in RelOptCluster pluggable.
> >
> > I disagree. RelMetadataQuery is not an extension point. Its sole
> > purpose is to to keep state (the cache and cycle-checking).
> > RelMetadataProvider is the extension point. (By analogy, if you are
> > un-parsing an AST, you let each AST sub-class handle unparsing itself,
> > but the unparsed text goes to a simple StringBuilder. RelMetadataQuery
> > is in the role of the StringBuilder. In a complex system, it is nice
> > to keep some of the components simple, or at least keep them to
> > prescribed roles.)
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_dispatch
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 11:19 PM Yuzhao Chen <yuzhao....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently we provide answer to metadata query through
> > RelMetadataProvider [1], there are some sub-classes of it:
> > >
> > > RelMetadataProvider
> > > |
> > > |- VolcanoRelMetadataProvider
> > > |- ChainedRelMetadataProvider/DefaultRelMetadataProvider
> > > |- HepRelMetadataProvider
> > > |- CachingRelMetadataProvider
> > > |- ReflectiveRelMetadataProvider
> > > |- JaninoRelMetadataProvider
> > >
> > > The RelMetadataProvider has two methods: #apply and #handlers, the
> > #apply method seems a programming interface and there is a demo code how we
> > can use it:
> > >
> > > RelMetadataProvider provider;
> > > LogicalFilter filter;
> > > RexNode predicate;
> > > Function<RelNode, Metadata> function =
> > > provider.apply(LogicalFilter.class, Selectivity.class};
> > > Selectivity selectivity = function.apply(filter);
> > > Double d = selectivity.selectivity(predicate);
> > >
> > > But let's see our RelOptCluster's member variables[2], there are
> > MetadataFactory and RelMetadataQuery which all can be used to query the
> > metadata, for MetadataFactory, there is a default impl named
> > MetadataFactoryImpl which will invoke RelMetadataProvider#apply internally,
> > for RelMetadataQuery, it will invoke RelMetadataProvider#handlers (finally
> > composed and codeden by JaninoRelMetadataProvider).
> > >
> > > In our planning phrase, we can invoke RelOptRuleCall#getMetadataQuery to
> > get the MQ and query the metadata.
> > >
> > > For extension of metadata handlers, we can set our customized
> > RelMetadataProvider in RelOptCluster[3]. But for RelMetadataQuery, we have
> > no way to extend it now, because the RelOptCluster always has a singleton
> > instance [4] which is only the default implementation.
> > >
> > >
> > > My question is as follows:
> > >
> > > 1. Why we have 2 methods in RelMetadataProvider, and why we need the
> > MetadataFactory and RelMetadataProvider#apply ? It seems that it's function
> > is already been overriden by RelMetadataQuery(The difference is that
> > MetadataFactory use Reflection and RelMetadataQuery use gened bytes code).
> > > 2. We should make the RelMetadataQuery in RelOptCluster pluggable.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/b0e83c469ff57257c1ea621ff943ca76f626a9b7/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/rel/metadata/RelMetadataProvider.java#L38
> > > [2]
> > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/b0e83c469ff57257c1ea621ff943ca76f626a9b7/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/plan/RelOptCluster.java#L49
> > > [3]
> > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/b0e83c469ff57257c1ea621ff943ca76f626a9b7/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/plan/RelOptCluster.java#L135
> > > [4]
> > https://github.com/apache/calcite/blob/b0e83c469ff57257c1ea621ff943ca76f626a9b7/core/src/main/java/org/apache/calcite/plan/RelOptCluster.java#L151
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Danny Chan
> >

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