On 14/11/2016 00:52, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> *General Diversity Approach and Strategy*
>> I haven't had much time to update this on the wiki but once the committer
>> survey is complete I will be able to perhaps tailor it based on the results.
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/
>> Diversity+Strategy+Ideas
>>
>> I'm still interested in getting feedback and ideas from anyone about ways
>> to develop the strategy and actions we can take to help encourage diversity.

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> So; What does "feel safe" mean?
> In this context, it must be a first world non-problem. Because I doubt that
> you think ASF committers will be hit by drone strikes if their location is
> known, that an unfortunate email will cause terrorist attacks or indirectly
> causing thermo-nuclear war. "Safe" means that there is no imminent danger
> to our lives and physical health. Maslow's somewhat revised hierarchy also
> includes "financial security" as it quite directly affects our survival.
> "Safe" doesn't encompass "not feeling happy", "I was offended" and other
> non-sense.
> If you against all odds are talking about real safety; I can't imagine that
> anyone became more unsafe after joining ASF communities. Right?

Wrong. There are examples of people being threatened and/or assaulted
directly as a result of their participation in an ASF community. I'm one
of them.

I whole-heartedly support the work that Sharan is doing this area. I am
of the view that the phrase "feel safe" is an critical element of the
desired outcomes and should remain.

Mark

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