Does it need to be its own entity? Why can't this be a task/effort under
ComDev's control/charter? It certainly seems to fit under the
concept of comdev and the people are already here...

> On Apr 1, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> Another update.
> 
> I'm writing the note to operati...@apache.org to request the creation of an
> entity to support and govern diversity and inclusion work. I've added the
> name of everyone who volunteered here initially, with the caveat that I
> might have missed someone, so please follow up on the new thread when I
> send it, nothing intentional.
> 
> I've also included a potential framework to work under. You can see it
> illustrated in this talk I gave at OSCON last year:
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FV_9geYGoclJeBb7Ld8Jy0Ze3ex8lTm77dZ6l31y8zo/edit#slide=id.g3e2640810d_1_6
> 
> I've also requested an initial quote from the firm we work on Research for
> OSS contributor documentation (Guidea). I've asked for pricing on a project
> that will deliver on this:
> - Identify factors preventing under represented groups to contribute/join
> Apache projects
> - Recommendations in how to foster diversity & inclusion based in findings
> - Help establishing a D&I committee
> 
> I'll report back their quote.
> 
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 14:15, Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 17:38, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:25 PM Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks everyone for the encouragement and recognition.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm happy to work on the Jira board this weekend. Can I just start a new
>>>> one on my personal account and add people to it? or does someone need to
>>>> create it under an Apache account? - If the later, can someone create it
>>>> and give me admin access?
>>> 
>>> No private JIRA.  Needs to be ASF hosted.  It is a simple request to
>>> the infra team, and yes, you can have admin access.
>>> 
>> 
>> Just filed a Jira against Infra requesting the board.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18147
>> 
>> 
>>>> I will then populate it with the initial structure and will seed it with
>>>> components and the deliverables I outlined. I will add the people who
>>>> indicated interest so they can select where they want to contribute.
>>>> 
>>>> In terms of comm channels, can we also create a slack channel?
>>> 
>>> Slack channels tend to disadvantage people who can't be available at a
>>> given time (either due to other commitments or time zones).  We use it
>>> in infra for time sensitive coordination, but my sense is that the D&I
>>> work should be done in a more... dare I say it... inclusive manner
>>> using mailing lists and JIRA and the like.
>>> 
>> 
>> Agree. Let's start with the Jira & mailing list. Could you help with
>> creating the diversity & inclusion mailing list?
>> 
>> 
>>>> // I will comment on Kenn's point in a separate note, he outlined great
>>>> points for us to put into an overall D&I strategy
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>> 
>>> And you deserve thanks for volunteering!
>>> 
>>> - Sam Ruby
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 16:51, Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't find this off-topic. I am grateful for this profile of Drupal,
>>>>> which I otherwise would not have been exposed to. Thanks Justin!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I want to bring the main section headers and key items (curated by
>>> me) of
>>>>> the Drupal article on list for ease of reading and archival.
>>> Apologies for
>>>>> redundancy with the links that Justin shared.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Institute a community-wide code of conduct
>>>>>    a. With a working group to escalate to for mediation
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Elevate a diverse group of leaders
>>>>>    a. have a D&I board to advance initiatives surrounding D&I
>>>>>    b. and a D&I contribution team to help underrepresented people
>>>>> contribute to the Drupal codebase
>>>>>    c. address D&I in values: "We believe that the Drupal project
>>> benefits
>>>>> from a diverse contribution pool, and we strive to foster a welcoming
>>> and
>>>>> inclusive culture everywhere Drupal exists—at events, online, and in
>>> our
>>>>> workplaces”
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Make your project accessible to a diverse user base (hits home as I
>>>>> think a lot about how they user base becomes the contributor base)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. How private companies can promote open source diversity
>>>>>    a. for most engineers, open source work is a luxury, and one that
>>> is
>>>>> not afforded to underrepresented people
>>>>>    b. companies—particularly ones that profit from open source
>>>>> technology—can solve this problem by giving employees time to
>>> contribute to
>>>>> the projects the company uses
>>>>> 
>>>>> It sounds like the work Gris has been doing is like the work of the
>>> Drupal
>>>>> D&I board and also the Drupal D&I contribution team.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 3:40 PM Justin Mclean <
>>> jus...@classsoftware.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Slightly off topic but relevant. One think we could do is look at
>>> other
>>>>>> foundations and communities and see what they have done that has
>>> worked
>>>>> for
>>>>>> them. I come across this interesting artifice this morning [1].
>>> Note it
>>>>>> includes the steps that community took to build a diverse
>>> community, I’d
>>>>>> also note we’ve taken some of those steps (e.g. have a code of
>>> conduct)
>>>>> but
>>>>>> perhaps shows where we could do more. They have set up a Drupal
>>>>> Diversity &
>>>>>> Inclusion team [5] that spells out it values [2] and has  among
>>> other
>>>>>> things guide on moderation, [3] and participation [4], Now the ASF
>>> is
>>>>>> different to Drupal and some of those tings may not fit but it
>>> would be
>>>>>> useful I think to at least consider them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://angel.co/blog/drupals-angela-byron-on-building-a-diverse-community
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://www.drupal.org/docs/8/modules/drupal-diversity-inclusion/statement-of-values
>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://www.drupal.org/docs/8/modules/drupal-diversity-inclusion/drupal-diversity-inclusion-participation-moderation-1
>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://www.drupal.org/docs/8/modules/drupal-diversity-inclusion/participation-moderation-guidelines/participant-guidelines
>>>>>> 5. https://www.drupal.org/project/diversity
>>>>>> 
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