I don't think anyone expects it to die, but rather that D&I be one of the core aspects of community development and not an effort, in and of itself. If it reaches critical mass and warrants being spun out (due to clear division of tasks between D&I and ComDev) then I think everyone would support that.
IMO, spinning out does not guarantee that an effort will succeed and not die (we have loads of history to show that), nor does keeping it, for the time being, in ComDev mean that it will wither or die on the vine. Just my 2c > On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: > > I agree with Sam that if we do not formalize this as a committee it will > die. > > I understand and acknowledge the reasons why this being part of ComDev > makes sense: simplicity and agility to get off the ground. > > However, this rationale still treats the effort to embrace the need for a > Diversity and Inclusion strategy as a proof of concept, expecting it will > die. I have committed to make this happen and the commitment includes > driving this through the bureocracy needed to make the group and efforts > part of the ASF DNA. > > If we do not do it now, it will just become what Naomi mentioned: yet > another try. > > I am happy to walk the walk and structure work and needs to make this > happen. > > I would suggest we still aim for the committee or at least define a clear > goal to hit for it to graduate to that level. Right now the > success.measurement is unclear and vague. > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 8:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:57 PM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: >>> ...My feeling is that it will die here... >> >> IIUC what's been proposed so far is a new mailing list and issue tracker. >> >> Both can very well be owned by comdev and that shouldn't limit >> progress in any way. >> >> It's just that the comdev PMC is responsible for oversight and >> reporting on those new initiatives, and it keeps things simple for >> now. >> >> -Bertrand >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
