> For the purposes of *THIS* discussion, I think that that's a bit of a sidetrack. Sure.
Jim, Despite the fact that I do not fully understand the problem, I am ready to volunteer to prepare materials. I don't care if it will be a part of Apache Training or Apache Com.Dev or slightly another thing. I just like this topic, which why a year ago I've started asking about it here. I know about the excellent slides done by Shane http://shaneslides.com/apachecon/TheApacheWay-ApacheConNA2018.html#2 I also like the idea of explaining not only principles but all principles' impact. Ideal material for education would explain why ASF can't drop each component of the Apache Way. Sincerely, Dmitriy Pavlov вт, 16 июл. 2019 г. в 22:46, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com>: > > > On 7/16/19 2:29 PM, Dmitriy Pavlov wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > > Could you mention events you're referring to? > > For the purposes of *THIS* discussion, I think that that's a bit of a > sidetrack. > > Suffice it to say that clearer understanding of the *WHY* around the > principles of the Apache Way is necessary, in order that the *WHAT* > doesn't get perceived as meaningless, arbitrary, or dispensible. > > > > > > In Apache Training (incubating) Justin started to develop content related > > to the Incubator > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-training/tree/master/content/ApacheWay > , > > so we can consider developing a standalone session related to the Apache > > Way principles. But to understand if training will be helpful I would > like > > to know the entire story. > > > > You can share it with me directly if you want. > > > > Sincerely > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > вт, 16 июл. 2019 г. в 20:52, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>: > > > >> I think that the events of the last several months have clearly shown a > >> lack of awareness, knowledge and (and some level) appreciation > (adherence) > >> to The Apache Way. It would be useful, I think, if this was a focused > >> effort w/i the foundation. > >> > >> Of course, there is a lot of overlap between ComDev and this effort, and > >> so the questions are how best to address this. Maybe some sort of > sub-cmmt > >> under ComDev? Or spinning this out ala D&I (but as a PMC to avoid the > >> problems that cmmt encountered and to engender trust and > collaboration)? Or > >> basically focus on it w/i ComDev with the structure "as is"... I think > >> having one person "tasked" with herding the cats and coordinating the > >> effort would be useful (and I volunteer to do so), no matter what > structure > >> we decide. > >> > >> Thoughts? Ideas? > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
