I have worked with various ASF projects for 4+ years now. Sure, ASF projects can delete code as they feel fit. But this is the first time I have really seen code being "moved out" of a project without discussion. I am sure you can do this without violating ASF policy, but the explanation for that would be convoluted (someone decided to make a copy and then the ASF project deleted it?).
Also, moving the code out would break compatibility. AFAIK, there is no way to push org.apache.* artifacts directly to maven central. That happens via mirroring from the ASF maven repos. Even if it you could somehow directly push the artifacts to mvn, you really can push to org.apache.* groups only if you are part of the repo and acting as an agent of that project (which in this case would be Apache Spark). Once you move the code out, even a committer/PMC member would not be representing the ASF when pushing the code. I am not sure if there is a way to fix this issue. Thanks, Hari On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Mridul Muralidharan <mri...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not referring to code edits - but to migrating submodules and > code currently in Apache Spark to 'outside' of it. > If I understand correctly, assets from Apache Spark are being moved > out of it into thirdparty external repositories - not owned by Apache. > > At a minimum, dev@ discussion (like this one) should be initiated. > As PMC is responsible for the project assets (including code), signoff > is required for it IMO. > > More experienced Apache members might be opine better in case I got it > wrong ! > > > Regards, > Mridul > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Cody Koeninger <c...@koeninger.org> > wrote: > > Why would a PMC vote be necessary on every code deletion? > > > > There was a Jira and pull request discussion about the submodules that > > have been removed so far. > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-13843 > > > > There's another ongoing one about Kafka specifically > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-13877 > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Mridul Muralidharan <mri...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I was not aware of a discussion in Dev list about this - agree with > most of > >> the observations. > >> In addition, I did not see PMC signoff on moving (sub-)modules out. > >> > >> Regards > >> Mridul > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Marcelo Vanzin <van...@cloudera.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello all, > >>> > >>> Recently a lot of the streaming backends were moved to a separate > >>> project on github and removed from the main Spark repo. > >>> > >>> While I think the idea is great, I'm a little worried about the > >>> execution. Some concerns were already raised on the bug mentioned > >>> above, but I'd like to have a more explicit discussion about this so > >>> things don't fall through the cracks. > >>> > >>> Mainly I have three concerns. > >>> > >>> i. Ownership > >>> > >>> That code used to be run by the ASF, but now it's hosted in a github > >>> repo owned not by the ASF. That sounds a little sub-optimal, if not > >>> problematic. > >>> > >>> ii. Governance > >>> > >>> Similar to the above; who has commit access to the above repos? Will > >>> all the Spark committers, present and future, have commit access to > >>> all of those repos? Are they still going to be considered part of > >>> Spark and have release management done through the Spark community? > >>> > >>> > >>> For both of the questions above, why are they not turned into > >>> sub-projects of Spark and hosted on the ASF repos? I believe there is > >>> a mechanism to do that, without the need to keep the code in the main > >>> Spark repo, right? > >>> > >>> iii. Usability > >>> > >>> This is another thing I don't see discussed. For Scala-based code > >>> things don't change much, I guess, if the artifact names don't change > >>> (another reason to keep things in the ASF?), but what about python? > >>> How are pyspark users expected to get that code going forward, since > >>> it's not in Spark's pyspark.zip anymore? > >>> > >>> > >>> Is there an easy way of keeping these things within the ASF Spark > >>> project? I think that would be better for everybody. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Marcelo > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@spark.apache.org > >>> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@spark.apache.org > >
