On 20. 04. 23 23:20, Matthew Miller wrote:
I propose that we transition devel list, and eventually most of our
mailing lists, to Fedora Discussion (our Discourse-powered forum).
Python recently transitioned from a mailing list (python-dev) to Discourse
(discuss.python.org).
Challenges I don't know how to deal with:
1. Python discussions are no longer at the same place as all the other
discussions (my Thunderbird). This is a big one for me. I cannot primarily use
the Discourse web interface on discuss.python.org because I simply won't go
there. I suppose that if Fedora switches the devel mailing list to Discourse, I
will have to go there, considering how often I post to the devel list. However,
In suspect some more casual contributors will not go there adn we'll lost them
or they will loose track od what's happening in Fedora.
A partial solution to this is to use the "mail list mode" and disable topics I
don't care about. Which is possible, but brings me to...
2. When I read the content in the web app, it does not mark the related emails
read. I can either read everything via email (which frankly has a worse
readability than the web app) or go read it on web and than manually mark my
emails as read. So far, this has been tedious for me so far and I repeatedly
give up and mark the entire Python Discourse folder as read when the number
reaches 10k unread emails. Even if I read everything via email, I cannot reply
there so I still need to visit the thing in the web app to participate.
3. When I choose to use the mailing list approach, I can no longer distinguish
"regular" email notifications (somebody replied to my comment or mentioned me)
from the rest of the email traffic from the forum. This will apply to others as
well; e.g. when I send an email to devel now, I can CC people I know need to
see it -- on Discourse I can mention them, but they might not notice that if
they receive an email of everything anyway.
So far, when Python switched from mailing list to Discourse I've noticed this:
Once I participate in a certain discussion, it somewhat works, as long as I
remember to go check it out occasionally. But OTOH I miss out almost everything
I don't actively participate in.
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Perhaps I am a greybeard, but I am pretty much scared of this change in Fedora.
You say we miss people now. I say we will miss them then. Unfortunately, I
don't know how to solve that. Maybe my fear is not justified, but it is real.
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