Hi all,

I would like to test one of these ARQ modes. Anyone around for a test on 40- or 
80m?  I am calling cq on 3585 usb in Thor right now. 

73 de LA5VNA Steinar 




kh6ty wrote:
>> 1. Is it correct that just because a mode is listed in the NBEMS mode
>> list, does not mean that you could not use it with flarq as an ARQ mode?
>>     
>
> Yes, but some modes cannot be used as an ARQ mode due to either too much 
> latency or ascii or control code support.  The only modes tested with flarq 
> are DominoEx, MFSK16,32,64, PSK31,63,125,250, Thor (all speeds) and 
> MT-63-2000. The latency of MT-63 is so great, only the fastest speed is 
> enough to enable ARQ to work.
>
>   
>> Therefore, any of the modes could theoretically be used, even if not
>> recommended or even if they might not work very well but flarq will ARQ
>> any of them?
>>     
>
> See above. Of the available modes for ARQ, the ones listed for NBEMS are the 
> ones recommended for messaging. However, on VHF when signals are near the 
> noise, it is sometimes easier to tune with PSK31 (because the idle carriers 
> stand out more clearly against the noise background on the waterfall than 
> the multi-tone modes) and then switch to MFSK16 or DominoEx11 without 
> changing the tuning.
>
>   
>> 2. Could you explain how the MFSK modes are made more robust and yet can
>> still work with other programs?
>>     
>
> We worked with ZL1BPU, one of the authors of MFSK16, to implement several 
> enhancements, one of which is called "puncturing", which averages the signal 
> level and if a signal sample is significantly above the average, it is 
> assumed to be a static burst and the AFC is momentarily disabled. The fldigi 
> MFSK modes are compatible with MFSK16 or MFSK8 in other programs, but it is 
> necessary to use fldigi in order to get the advantage of the enchancements.
>
>   
>> On another note, thanks for confirming what I suspected about the drift
>> issue. I recently was told that I my preference for purchasing only TCXO
>> rigs was overkill, even for VHF, but when you look at the ppm issues
>> with modes such as MFSK, even a few Hz is a problem.
>>     
>
> Generally, not on HF so much, as transceivers tend to have less drift on HF, 
> especially on 80m and 40m, but definitely on VHF, where excessive drift can 
> often be a serious problem for some digital modes.
>
> 73, Skip KH6TY
> NBEMS Development Team
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