I have a LOT to digest!! I thank both of you for the detailed (and that is what 
I needed!) answers. THANKS to you both!

Steve
KJ4SLK

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "KB3FXI" <kb3...@...> wrote:
>
> Jon,
> 
> Excellent explanation!  You should be a teacher (if you aren't already).
> 
> And, Stephen... welcome to the hobby and digital modes.
> 
> Here's my personal preference with some elaboration:
> 
> Interface: USB Signalink
> USB Signalink has an on board sound card so you don't have to tie up your 
> computer soundcard. It also only has 2 cables... one to the radio and a USB 
> to the computer. Power is supplied by the USB cable. I've found the devices 
> with rats nests of audio and power cables hanging off them give a much 
> greater chance for picking up RF and locking up your computer.
> 
> Software: NBEMS / FLDIGI (www.w1hkj.com)
> FLDIGI multimode software is built for all major platforms. So, if you go 
> from Windows to MAC, you just download the MAC version and away you go. This 
> is a preference thing, but I like the single window display of FLDIGI. 
> However, if you're going to get into contesting, I think the logging and 
> automatic rig control may be a bit more advanced and better refined on HRD. 
> Rig control is where your radio and software share info such as frequency, 
> filter settings, volume, etc. You can change frequencies and settings on the 
> rig from the software. I've not had much luck with NBEMS rig control but I 
> don't care enough about the feature to bother to trouble shoot it.
> 
> With regard to the software.... the good thing is both HRD and NBEMS/FLDIGI 
> are free, so you can check them out and see what you think before going down 
> one path or another.
> 
> I'd take up some of the fellows offers to help you down your way. And if you 
> can meet up and have someone give you a demo, that's the way to go. The first 
> time you open some of these programs, it can look much more complicated than 
> it actually is.
> 
> Good luck and let us know when you're ready to make some digital contacts. 
> I've chatted with quite a few hams in LA on both digital and phone... maybe 
> we'll get lucky and meet up on a good path.
> 
> -Dave, KB3FXI
> 
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "JonP" <jperelst@> wrote:
> >
> > Some of your questions are sort of "which taste better -- apples or 
> > oranges?" and you may get all sorts of different answers depending on 
> > personal preference.  I'll give you some of what I believe are the 
> > differentiating factors.  I'll also tell you my personal decisions but they 
> > are mine and others will not agree because it's a personal thing.
> > 
> > HRD vs. Others:  There are a couple of programs like HRD, FLDIGI, and MixW 
> > (plus a few others whose names escape me at the moment) that are multimode 
> > and can do pretty much any of the "soundcard modes" (i.e., those digital 
> > modes that can be done with soundcards and don't require special modems, 
> > special TNCs, etc.).  Then there are those built for individual "soundcard 
> > modes" such as Digipan for PSK and MMTTY for RTTY.  
> > 
> > In my opinion (and it's only my opinion), the primary difference is that if 
> > you go with a multimode program, there is a higher learning curve up front 
> > to get started on your first mode but then almost no learning curve to go 
> > to the next mode and the next mode and ...  If you go with a specific 
> > program, you have a moderate learning curve up front for your first mode 
> > and then a similar learning for the next mode and ... Essentially, if 
> > you're going to do multiple modes it comes down to "pay me now or pay me 
> > later".  
> > 
> > Of course, you'll have the learning curve of best operating practices for 
> > each mode, but that has nothing to do with which software you're using.
> > 
> > When it comes to capabilities to work in a given mode, I believe that the 
> > major multimode programs are as good as the equivalent single mode 
> > programs.  For example, I believe that HRD or FLDIGI are just as good in 
> > PSK as is Digipan or any of the other PSK programs.
> > 
> > Personally, I decided to go for a multimode program.  I like the fact that 
> > I only had to learn the user interface once and could then quickly pick up 
> > additional modes.  I regularly switch back and forth between PSK, RTTY, 
> > Domino, MFSK, MT-63, Olivia, etc. depending on what I'm hearing on the air, 
> > and being able to do it by clicking a button rather than shutting down 
> > software and opening up software is a major benefit in my mind (others may 
> > disagree, especially if they prefer to work one mode only).  I would also 
> > say that if you have the smarts to get your general or extra ticket, the 
> > learning curve on HRD (or on FLDIGI) is not going to be a hindrance to you.
> > 
> > As to outboard vs. inboard soundcard -- again a matter of preference.  When 
> > you go "inboard" soundcard, you're depending on the soundcard that comes 
> > with the computer and you're depending on the computer having enough speed 
> > and memory to run the soundcard and the software at the same time.  Not all 
> > computers do -- especially some of the cheaper or older computers.  When 
> > you buy an "outboard" like the SignaLink, you know you're getting a 
> > soundcard that works well for this purpose and does not take much memory or 
> > processor speed.
> > 
> > I prefer the "outboard".  My primary ham radio computer is an Acer netbook 
> > and the internal soundcard is not as good as the soundcard in my "outboard" 
> > (a SignaLink USB), which means that I do better with the SignaLink on that 
> > computer.  I do a lot of EMCOMM work and I like the fact that I can move 
> > the SignaLink from computer to computer without having to worry about 
> > whether or not the computer's soundcard is adequate.
> > 
> > Cables -- believe it or not, another preference thing.  If you buy one of 
> > the major soundcard interfaces such as a SignaLink or RIGblaster, they come 
> > with the cables you will need (you will specify which rig you have and they 
> > will include the right cables).  There are people who prefer to build their 
> > own cables and even build their own interfaces.  Depends on whether or not 
> > you like to tinker with a soldering iron.  Knowing how many things I've 
> > ruined with soldering irons -- having built an Elecraft K1 AND two Elecraft 
> > K2s -- I didn't want to do any more soldering for a while.  
> > 
> > Note that the cables that come with the soundcard interfaces are for the 
> > digital mode, they are not the cables for rig control (actually changing 
> > frequency, power, and other settings through the computer).  The 756 has 
> > good capabilities for that if you want to use them (you don't have to -- 
> > you can control the rig manually, which is what I like to do).  If you 
> > decide to do computer rig control, you will need an additional cable and 
> > you will certainly need software that can do the controlling.  Your 756 
> > user manual specifies the cable needed for that (or you can build your 
> > own).  Both HRD and FLDIGI do rig control as well as digital modes, and 
> > that might be an argument for one of them if you decide you want computer 
> > rig control.
> > 
> > Wow, I've written a book.  Sorry about that.  
> > 
> > I hope this helps and I hope I haven't started a flame war by expressing my 
> > preferences.
> > 
> > Jon 
> > KB1QBZ
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen" <smyers10@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is HRD the program to use, or should I start out with somethig that is 
> > > more simple? Do I get an "outboard" sound card? What cables do I need? 
> > > Any advice will be appreciated.
> >
>


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