All the best,
Hector Santos


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 8:51 PM, Dotzero <dotz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:28 PM Hector Santos <hsan...@isdg.net 
> <mailto:hsan...@isdg.net>> wrote:
>>> On Sep 11, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Dotzero <dotz...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:dotz...@gmail.com>> chastised Douglas Foster
>>> 
>>> Absolutely incorrect. DMARC is a deterministic pass|fail approach based on 
>>> validation through DKIM or SPF pass (or if both pass). It says nothing 
>>> about the acceptability/goodness/badness of a source. 
>> 
>> So why are we here?
> 
> Because you care? 

I do. 

>> 
>> Correct or incorrect, a published p=reject has to mean something to the 
>> verifier who is doing the domain a favor by a) implementing the protocol and 
>> b) the goal of eliminating junk.   If there are false negatives, whose fault 
>> is that?  The Domain, The Verifier or the Protocol?
> 
> DMARC does one thing and one thing only. It mitigates against direct domain 
> abuse in a deterministic manner, nothing else. It doesn't stop spam and it 
> doesn't depend on or involve reputation. It is but one tool among a number of 
> tools that various parties can choose from. A message passing DMARC 
> validation does not mean the message is "good". There is no question of 
> fault. Perhaps you should recommend changes to incorporate a blame game if 
> your goal is to determine fault. 

Deterministic means there is no question -  you follow the protocol. Your 
(speaking in general) opinions don’t matter. 

>> 
>> Please try to be more civil with people’s views or position with this 
>> problematic protocol.
> 
> Thank you for sharing your opinion. I'm truly and deeply sorrowful if I have 
> offended your sensibilities. I will consider including trigger warnings on 
> future posts. 

Share that with Douglas Foster.

>> 
>> Thanks
> 
> You are welcome.

My Pleasure.

—
HLS

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