On 05/03/2024 14:26, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote:
> On 04/03/2024 20:04, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 19:27, Vladimir Mezentsev
>> <vladimir.mezent...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/4/24 09:38, Richard Earnshaw (lists) wrote:
>>>> Tools like git (and svn before it) don't try to maintain time-stamps on 
>>>> patches, the tool just modifies the file and the timestamp comes from the 
>>>> time of the modification.  That's fine if there is nothing regenerated 
>>>> within the repository (it's pure original source), but will cause problems 
>>>> if there are generated files as their time stamps aren't necessarily 
>>>> correct.  `gcc_update --touch` addresses that by ensuring all the 
>>>> generated files are retouched when needed.
>>>
>>> Why do we save generated files in the source tree?
>>> What will be the problem if we remove Makefile.in and configure from
>>> source tree and will run `autoreconf -i -f` before building ?
>> 
>> Having the exact correct versions of autoconf and automake increases
>> the barrier for new contributors to start work. And to regenerate
>> everything, they also need autogen, mkinfo, etc.
> 
> It's worse than that.  They might need multiple versions of those tools 
> because different subtrees are built with different, subtly incompatible, 
> versions of those tools.
> 
> R.
> 

And I've just remembered another reason as well, which is that some people want 
to store their sources in a read-only environment; having the tools write to 
the source area during a build can cause problems (eg if building multiple 
configurations of the compiler in parallel).

R.

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